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	<title>Comments on: Did da Vinci paint Mary Magdalene in The Last Supper?</title>
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		<title>By: John Hupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the painting there are several questions. First: why are there 36 squares in the ceiling? Why are there 8 big and 3 small squares on either side of the table? What is the man on Jesus&#039;s left pointing at? If you were to draw lines in the directions of everyone pointing at the table, what would be the outcome? Is there mathematics within the painting? Where is the landscape in the windows behind the table? Why is there a church with with Jesus painted on it under the onion dome? Why are there 5 hills in the scenery outside the windows? Theory! Under the old calender the first of the year started in March, if you were to count from right to left excluding Jesus the person on the right would be in the month of September witch represents the virgin Virgo! Now if Jesus was a representation of  the Sun and the 12 other persons representations of the months of the year would this make any more sense of the painting in question?  Look a little closer at the painting! go to this site and see for yourseves http://www.haltadefinizione.com
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J.H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the painting there are several questions. First: why are there 36 squares in the ceiling? Why are there 8 big and 3 small squares on either side of the table? What is the man on Jesus&#8217;s left pointing at? If you were to draw lines in the directions of everyone pointing at the table, what would be the outcome? Is there mathematics within the painting? Where is the landscape in the windows behind the table? Why is there a church with with Jesus painted on it under the onion dome? Why are there 5 hills in the scenery outside the windows? Theory! Under the old calender the first of the year started in March, if you were to count from right to left excluding Jesus the person on the right would be in the month of September witch represents the virgin Virgo! Now if Jesus was a representation of  the Sun and the 12 other persons representations of the months of the year would this make any more sense of the painting in question?  Look a little closer at the painting! go to this site and see for yourseves <a href="http://www.haltadefinizione.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.haltadefinizione.com</a><br />
Thanx<br />
J.H.</p>
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		<title>By: Ami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well.. this facts are fascinating. Im a budhdhist my self, but I have no intension in insulting Christianity. No offence but there is some points in the bible where u find the facts not linking with each other.

What I feel is, In Buddhism, Lord Buddha stood 7 days continuously looking at the &quot;BO&quot; Tree which has provided him shelter through out the journey of seeking the truth. This was a tribute done for the Tree, which has helped him to succeed. 

In the Bible, It tells that All the Animals in the Barn of Bethlehem were the Christ was born, has helped him. So what we have to believe is all the Animals were respectable due to the help given for this Holy Moment. But It turns out that all the Christian&#039;s kill the same animals to celebrate the Christ&#039;s Birth. No Offence, but is this the tribute that you can convey to them?

Buddhism is not a religion, but its a Vision. Many Doctors, Professors and Scientists now have faith in Buddhism due to the facts which are exactly matching with the latest discoveries in Now a day science, which were toled centauries ago.

I’m not intending to public Buddhism, but in this FILM, It is certain that there is no sign of any Grail at all. The Event is Breaking Bread; can u imagine a supper with out wine or any other liquid substance? Clearly there must be a reason for Learnado to paint such a picture. I believe Brown&#039;s fact just links to each other (some of them). But what I believe is, Jesus Christ was a man ( not a God&#039;s son) who had a clear vision and a love, caring hart for people. Obviously, If there were some person like that there’s no dough that people treat them as GOD. :::: PEACE ::::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well.. this facts are fascinating. Im a budhdhist my self, but I have no intension in insulting Christianity. No offence but there is some points in the bible where u find the facts not linking with each other.</p>
<p>What I feel is, In Buddhism, Lord Buddha stood 7 days continuously looking at the &#8220;BO&#8221; Tree which has provided him shelter through out the journey of seeking the truth. This was a tribute done for the Tree, which has helped him to succeed. </p>
<p>In the Bible, It tells that All the Animals in the Barn of Bethlehem were the Christ was born, has helped him. So what we have to believe is all the Animals were respectable due to the help given for this Holy Moment. But It turns out that all the Christian&#8217;s kill the same animals to celebrate the Christ&#8217;s Birth. No Offence, but is this the tribute that you can convey to them?</p>
<p>Buddhism is not a religion, but its a Vision. Many Doctors, Professors and Scientists now have faith in Buddhism due to the facts which are exactly matching with the latest discoveries in Now a day science, which were toled centauries ago.</p>
<p>I’m not intending to public Buddhism, but in this FILM, It is certain that there is no sign of any Grail at all. The Event is Breaking Bread; can u imagine a supper with out wine or any other liquid substance? Clearly there must be a reason for Learnado to paint such a picture. I believe Brown&#8217;s fact just links to each other (some of them). But what I believe is, Jesus Christ was a man ( not a God&#8217;s son) who had a clear vision and a love, caring hart for people. Obviously, If there were some person like that there’s no dough that people treat them as GOD. :::: PEACE ::::</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are discussing an ALLEGED BEING that you( and a lot of others ) believe in. There is a difference!&quot;

Let&#039;s kick back and relax a spell--and let&#039;s consider something.

Chris, let&#039;s say that you were born and raised in an old Indian tribe that no one has heard about. You live there, get married there, and live your life there.

Now, let&#039;s say a missionary from England (what a coincidence) visits you. 

You are, by this time, about fifty or sixty years old. You&#039;ve raised your kids and they&#039;ve gotten married and lived happily ever after.

You&#039;re also very smart too...

Now, what would your reaction be if the British missionary told you that during winter, you could walk across the lake because the water would have become hard?

What would you say?

&quot;Logical fact #1: You just CAN&#039;T walk across water because water NEVER GETS HARD!&quot; (In India&#039;s hot climate, there is no chance for the water to become frozen).

&quot;Logical fact #2: It is totally ILLOGICAL for someone to walk across water and you are a stupid idiot if you think that someone can walk on water--even the IDEA of water &quot;getting hard&quot; is absurd! Things just don&#039;t work that way!&quot;

&quot;Logical fact #3: No one from our tribe has EVER been able to walk across water their entire lifetime--and yet you, a very young missionary man, tell US that you can walk on water? You are just young and stupid; one day, when you get older, you will come to understand what we do about water and how it works.&quot;

I ask you; who is the idiot? The missionary man--or the tribal leader?

The British missionary man has experienced the FACT that water can freeze--however, the tribal leader has not. If he were to be truly humble, he should ask the missionary man to take him to the place where water is hard and also, once taken there, he should also have the fun and the joy of &quot;walking on water.&quot;

(And it IS fun walking on frozen water, isn&#039;t it?) :)

In the same way, this is the difference between the unbeliever and a Christian; the Christian has experienced and knows the truth that Jesus is Lord and as a result, has lived a victorious life.

The unbeliever however, not only doesn&#039;t understand what the Christian is talking about, but he also makes fun of and sometimes goes as far as calling the Christian an idiot. 

Cordially,

--JJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are discussing an ALLEGED BEING that you( and a lot of others ) believe in. There is a difference!&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s kick back and relax a spell&#8211;and let&#8217;s consider something.</p>
<p>Chris, let&#8217;s say that you were born and raised in an old Indian tribe that no one has heard about. You live there, get married there, and live your life there.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s say a missionary from England (what a coincidence) visits you. </p>
<p>You are, by this time, about fifty or sixty years old. You&#8217;ve raised your kids and they&#8217;ve gotten married and lived happily ever after.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also very smart too&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, what would your reaction be if the British missionary told you that during winter, you could walk across the lake because the water would have become hard?</p>
<p>What would you say?</p>
<p>&#8220;Logical fact #1: You just CAN&#8217;T walk across water because water NEVER GETS HARD!&#8221; (In India&#8217;s hot climate, there is no chance for the water to become frozen).</p>
<p>&#8220;Logical fact #2: It is totally ILLOGICAL for someone to walk across water and you are a stupid idiot if you think that someone can walk on water&#8211;even the IDEA of water &#8220;getting hard&#8221; is absurd! Things just don&#8217;t work that way!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Logical fact #3: No one from our tribe has EVER been able to walk across water their entire lifetime&#8211;and yet you, a very young missionary man, tell US that you can walk on water? You are just young and stupid; one day, when you get older, you will come to understand what we do about water and how it works.&#8221;</p>
<p>I ask you; who is the idiot? The missionary man&#8211;or the tribal leader?</p>
<p>The British missionary man has experienced the FACT that water can freeze&#8211;however, the tribal leader has not. If he were to be truly humble, he should ask the missionary man to take him to the place where water is hard and also, once taken there, he should also have the fun and the joy of &#8220;walking on water.&#8221;</p>
<p>(And it IS fun walking on frozen water, isn&#8217;t it?) :)</p>
<p>In the same way, this is the difference between the unbeliever and a Christian; the Christian has experienced and knows the truth that Jesus is Lord and as a result, has lived a victorious life.</p>
<p>The unbeliever however, not only doesn&#8217;t understand what the Christian is talking about, but he also makes fun of and sometimes goes as far as calling the Christian an idiot. </p>
<p>Cordially,</p>
<p>&#8211;JJ</p>
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		<title>By: emmzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you&#039;re correct. When it comes to God&#039;s existence, I was giving my own opinion, not saying that we all agree. But insert &quot;If God exists&quot; in my post above and the logic still stands; ie, that -If God exists- we can never know absolutely everything about Him.

Of course, I think there are good reasons to believe God exists. :) Not perfect, absolute, 100% proof, but enough to warrant belief, given the alternatives available. And I have to keep myself open to the possibility that I&#039;m wrong; we all need to struggle to try to remain &#039;teachable&#039; so that we&#039;re able to evaluate other&#039;s opinions to decide whether they are valid or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you&#8217;re correct. When it comes to God&#8217;s existence, I was giving my own opinion, not saying that we all agree. But insert &#8220;If God exists&#8221; in my post above and the logic still stands; ie, that -If God exists- we can never know absolutely everything about Him.</p>
<p>Of course, I think there are good reasons to believe God exists. :) Not perfect, absolute, 100% proof, but enough to warrant belief, given the alternatives available. And I have to keep myself open to the possibility that I&#8217;m wrong; we all need to struggle to try to remain &#8216;teachable&#8217; so that we&#8217;re able to evaluate other&#8217;s opinions to decide whether they are valid or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris ( England)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris ( England)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No hang on you are assuming emmzee. We are not discusing A BEING that is infinite etc. We are discussing an ALLEGED BEING that you( and a lot of others ) believe in.  There is a difference!</description>
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		<title>By: emmzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether God is &quot;lonely&quot; ... often we have a tendancy to attribute human emotions TO God ... ex, when we say that God is loving, what does that mean? That God&#039;s love is like OUR love, what we experience as love? No, it means that our love is like God&#039;s, in a finite and incomplete way. So it&#039;s always dicey to attribute our own states of being to God as if God is &quot;like us&quot;, when at best we could be &quot;like Him&quot;. Coming from a slightly different angle, the Christian concept of the Trinity (one God in three persons) would mean that God cannot be lonely in the human sense.

Chris, eventually when it comes to God, we will find some questions that we can&#039;t answer entirely. Des Emery said it well above. Does the fact that we have some questions that aren&#039;t yet answered mean belief in God is unjustified? I wouldn&#039;t say so. When we are discussing a being that is infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, etc, we (as finite, non-omnipotent, non-omniscient, etc beings) necessarily cannot know everything about God. I&#039;m not suggesting that asking the questions is in any way not a very good thing. I&#039;m suggesting only that we have to recognize that not all questions can be answered, at least not in this life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether God is &#8220;lonely&#8221; &#8230; often we have a tendancy to attribute human emotions TO God &#8230; ex, when we say that God is loving, what does that mean? That God&#8217;s love is like OUR love, what we experience as love? No, it means that our love is like God&#8217;s, in a finite and incomplete way. So it&#8217;s always dicey to attribute our own states of being to God as if God is &#8220;like us&#8221;, when at best we could be &#8220;like Him&#8221;. Coming from a slightly different angle, the Christian concept of the Trinity (one God in three persons) would mean that God cannot be lonely in the human sense.</p>
<p>Chris, eventually when it comes to God, we will find some questions that we can&#8217;t answer entirely. Des Emery said it well above. Does the fact that we have some questions that aren&#8217;t yet answered mean belief in God is unjustified? I wouldn&#8217;t say so. When we are discussing a being that is infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, etc, we (as finite, non-omnipotent, non-omniscient, etc beings) necessarily cannot know everything about God. I&#8217;m not suggesting that asking the questions is in any way not a very good thing. I&#8217;m suggesting only that we have to recognize that not all questions can be answered, at least not in this life.</p>
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		<title>By: Des Emery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des Emery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Chris  --  Years ago I read a story by Ray Bradbury, &#039;All Summer In A Day.&#039;  It makes me think of you  --  you seem eager to understand the singularity of the Bible, but you want it all right now!  Unfortunately, it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort to achieve that state, and I am still learning after many years how many layers of meaning reside within the pages of the various books that compose the Bible.  but rest assured that &#039;meaning&#039; and &#039;relevance&#039; will make themselves known to you, bit by bit, if you persist in your search.  
I guess the existence of G-d (out of respect for Tova, I type that word, Gary) is the first confessioin you have to make, Chris, acknowledging Him as the prime mover, the eternal one, the creator, the only one, and, yes, the lonely one by our standards. But how else are we mortals to conceive of Him?  I can tell you what he is not.  He is not really a &quot;He&quot; since He has no gender; He is not an old white  man with a full beard, a white robe, and a halo (that&#039;s only Him  as drawn by cartoonists).  He does not live in the blue sky, behind golden gates, sitting complacently on a jewelled throne,either.  I do not know what He really is like,other than that he exists as a pure spirit (to be, He must have eternal life, be always present, be everywhere, have all power,etc., etc.) and I believe in Him.  Believing, I therefore place all my hope for the future in Him.  And hoping in Him, I give Him all my love, such as it is.  Loving Him, I become sorrowful for my transgressions against His laws by which He lifts me out of my animal origins (Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return) and gives me spiritual life.

By the way, Shakespeare always said it best, whatever he said.  Your quote -- All the world&#039;s a stage... was said by one of his characters who was mired in a deep funk at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Chris  &#8212;  Years ago I read a story by Ray Bradbury, &#8216;All Summer In A Day.&#8217;  It makes me think of you  &#8212;  you seem eager to understand the singularity of the Bible, but you want it all right now!  Unfortunately, it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort to achieve that state, and I am still learning after many years how many layers of meaning reside within the pages of the various books that compose the Bible.  but rest assured that &#8216;meaning&#8217; and &#8216;relevance&#8217; will make themselves known to you, bit by bit, if you persist in your search.<br />
I guess the existence of G-d (out of respect for Tova, I type that word, Gary) is the first confessioin you have to make, Chris, acknowledging Him as the prime mover, the eternal one, the creator, the only one, and, yes, the lonely one by our standards. But how else are we mortals to conceive of Him?  I can tell you what he is not.  He is not really a &#8220;He&#8221; since He has no gender; He is not an old white  man with a full beard, a white robe, and a halo (that&#8217;s only Him  as drawn by cartoonists).  He does not live in the blue sky, behind golden gates, sitting complacently on a jewelled throne,either.  I do not know what He really is like,other than that he exists as a pure spirit (to be, He must have eternal life, be always present, be everywhere, have all power,etc., etc.) and I believe in Him.  Believing, I therefore place all my hope for the future in Him.  And hoping in Him, I give Him all my love, such as it is.  Loving Him, I become sorrowful for my transgressions against His laws by which He lifts me out of my animal origins (Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return) and gives me spiritual life.</p>
<p>By the way, Shakespeare always said it best, whatever he said.  Your quote &#8212; All the world&#8217;s a stage&#8230; was said by one of his characters who was mired in a deep funk at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris ( England)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris ( England)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So ws this God a lonely God then? ( He created us to love him and to love us )</description>
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		<title>By: Gary J Sibio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary J Sibio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tova,

Your comments about the name of God were fortuitous. I was thinking about this point over the weekend. There&#039;s a show on EWTN in which Fr. John Corapi goes through the Catechism of the Catholic Church and talks about it. This week&#039;s show dealt with the Lord&#039;s Prayer. In care you&#039;re not familiar with it, the Lord&#039;s Prayer, AKA the Our Father, was a prayer Jesus taught His disciples (Matt 6) when one of them asked Him to teach them how to pray. It starts off &quot;Our Father, who are in Heaven....&quot; The point was that Jesus was telling His disciples that they should think about God as their Father in Heaven. Elsewhere in the Bible Jesus uses &#039;Abba,&#039; the Aramaic equivalent of &#039;Daddy.&#039;

It made me wonder why Jewish people believe they shouldn&#039;t speak God&#039;s name. (I understand the missing vowels and that we&#039;re not positive how YHVH was actually pronounced, but I&#039;ve even seen people from Jews for Jesus use G-d instead of God.) I know of nothing in the Bible that says this must be done. Why do you think that Jewish people won&#039;t use God&#039;s name? It seems to me that the concept of God as a loving Father is foreign to Judaism. Is that the case?

re: children born with venial sin

In Ps 51 David writes that he was brought into the world in sin. Children are born with what Christian theologians call original sin which they inherited from Adam and Eve. (Theologians are those people who make a living by obscuring the simple by creative use of terminology.) It is not that they have committed a sin. One, they haven&#039;t had the chance and two, they&#039;re way to young to be morally culpable. However, very young children can and will do stuff that they know they shouldn&#039;t. Having raised twin daughters I know this by experience.

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Chris,

I didn&#039;t mean to imply that God created us just to test us. He created us so that He could love us and we could love Him and that we could live forever in fellowship with Him. (When I was in grade school - late 50s/early 60s - we used to memorize the Baltimore Catechism. It had a great way of putting this: We were created to enjoy God.) Unfortunately we broke that fellowship with God when Adam and Eve sinned. Putting the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden was a test to see if they would obey Him but the test was not the reason for our existence. Love can&#039;t be real love unless the possibility of rejection exists. When they ate of the fruit Adam and Eve were essentially saying &quot;We&#039;re going our own way. We don&#039;t want you&quot; to God.


re: &quot;Life is just a play and we are all actors&quot; ( Shakespeare)

I guess you could think of it that way but the play is being written as we go along. What happens next depends on what we do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tova,</p>
<p>Your comments about the name of God were fortuitous. I was thinking about this point over the weekend. There&#8217;s a show on EWTN in which Fr. John Corapi goes through the Catechism of the Catholic Church and talks about it. This week&#8217;s show dealt with the Lord&#8217;s Prayer. In care you&#8217;re not familiar with it, the Lord&#8217;s Prayer, AKA the Our Father, was a prayer Jesus taught His disciples (Matt 6) when one of them asked Him to teach them how to pray. It starts off &#8220;Our Father, who are in Heaven&#8230;.&#8221; The point was that Jesus was telling His disciples that they should think about God as their Father in Heaven. Elsewhere in the Bible Jesus uses &#8216;Abba,&#8217; the Aramaic equivalent of &#8216;Daddy.&#8217;</p>
<p>It made me wonder why Jewish people believe they shouldn&#8217;t speak God&#8217;s name. (I understand the missing vowels and that we&#8217;re not positive how YHVH was actually pronounced, but I&#8217;ve even seen people from Jews for Jesus use G-d instead of God.) I know of nothing in the Bible that says this must be done. Why do you think that Jewish people won&#8217;t use God&#8217;s name? It seems to me that the concept of God as a loving Father is foreign to Judaism. Is that the case?</p>
<p>re: children born with venial sin</p>
<p>In Ps 51 David writes that he was brought into the world in sin. Children are born with what Christian theologians call original sin which they inherited from Adam and Eve. (Theologians are those people who make a living by obscuring the simple by creative use of terminology.) It is not that they have committed a sin. One, they haven&#8217;t had the chance and two, they&#8217;re way to young to be morally culpable. However, very young children can and will do stuff that they know they shouldn&#8217;t. Having raised twin daughters I know this by experience.</p>
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<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that God created us just to test us. He created us so that He could love us and we could love Him and that we could live forever in fellowship with Him. (When I was in grade school &#8211; late 50s/early 60s &#8211; we used to memorize the Baltimore Catechism. It had a great way of putting this: We were created to enjoy God.) Unfortunately we broke that fellowship with God when Adam and Eve sinned. Putting the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden was a test to see if they would obey Him but the test was not the reason for our existence. Love can&#8217;t be real love unless the possibility of rejection exists. When they ate of the fruit Adam and Eve were essentially saying &#8220;We&#8217;re going our own way. We don&#8217;t want you&#8221; to God.</p>
<p>re: &#8220;Life is just a play and we are all actors&#8221; ( Shakespeare)</p>
<p>I guess you could think of it that way but the play is being written as we go along. What happens next depends on what we do now.</p>
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		<description>Yes but it is said that God made man. My question is why, just to put us through a test. What is the point of that. Is it not true what a great man from my country once said. &quot;Life is just a play and we are all actors&quot; ( Shakespeare)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but it is said that God made man. My question is why, just to put us through a test. What is the point of that. Is it not true what a great man from my country once said. &#8220;Life is just a play and we are all actors&#8221; ( Shakespeare)</p>
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