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	<title>Comments on: Who is Your Role Model &#8211; Luther or Galileo?</title>
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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Darren Hewer is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Darren Hewer</span> </title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/blogposts/2009/05/16/who-is-your-role-model-luther-or-galileo/comment-page-1/#comment-132001</link>
		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Darren Hewer is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Darren Hewer</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, thank you for your comments. As others have pointed out, Luther did have his faults. Some of his later writings were sadly anti-Semitic, as thus those writings should be condemned. And assuming your quote is accurate, he did not embrace heliocentrism, although we should point out that at the time of Copernicus (and even Galileo) the theory was not yet provable given the scientific knowledge at the time, so most (or at least a great many) of the scholarly community was not fully convinced.

But I think the point the devotional author was trying to make was in the men&#039;s different responses to challenges to their beliefs. Galileo was willing to capitulate to the demands of his interrogators, whereas Luther was willing to hold tightly to his beliefs, no matter what the cost. The author ends the devo by saying &quot;The world tells us to compromise for our personal gain, but the Bible tells us to stand firm for our faith not matter what the world says.&quot; That I think is his point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, thank you for your comments. As others have pointed out, Luther did have his faults. Some of his later writings were sadly anti-Semitic, as thus those writings should be condemned. And assuming your quote is accurate, he did not embrace heliocentrism, although we should point out that at the time of Copernicus (and even Galileo) the theory was not yet provable given the scientific knowledge at the time, so most (or at least a great many) of the scholarly community was not fully convinced.</p>
<p>But I think the point the devotional author was trying to make was in the men&#8217;s different responses to challenges to their beliefs. Galileo was willing to capitulate to the demands of his interrogators, whereas Luther was willing to hold tightly to his beliefs, no matter what the cost. The author ends the devo by saying &#8220;The world tells us to compromise for our personal gain, but the Bible tells us to stand firm for our faith not matter what the world says.&#8221; That I think is his point.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what Luther wrote of Copernicus (Galileo was not born at the time): &quot;The fool wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside-down. However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the Earth.&quot;

What Galileo stood for was not a faith but a reality. Unlike Luther, he could be certain that that reality would emerge, regardless of the church&#039;s actions; that is why he could recant. Eventually the observation that the moons of Jupiter indeed revolve around that planet was confirmed by Jesuit astronomers and the Catholic church changed its view. Catholic teaching on science is strongly influenced by this, and it never again asserted the truth of its interpretation of scripture over observation - for example, it accepted the atomic theory, evolution, relativity, quantum theory, even though these challenged the understanding of scripture at the time. In 2000 it apologised for making Galileo recant. It has never apologised for excommunicating Luther, whose views are much more a matter of faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what Luther wrote of Copernicus (Galileo was not born at the time): &#8220;The fool wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside-down. However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the Earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>What Galileo stood for was not a faith but a reality. Unlike Luther, he could be certain that that reality would emerge, regardless of the church&#8217;s actions; that is why he could recant. Eventually the observation that the moons of Jupiter indeed revolve around that planet was confirmed by Jesuit astronomers and the Catholic church changed its view. Catholic teaching on science is strongly influenced by this, and it never again asserted the truth of its interpretation of scripture over observation &#8211; for example, it accepted the atomic theory, evolution, relativity, quantum theory, even though these challenged the understanding of scripture at the time. In 2000 it apologised for making Galileo recant. It has never apologised for excommunicating Luther, whose views are much more a matter of faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luther was a man who took a stand.  So was Galileo.  Some of what Luther wrote, as was mentioned by Scott G, regarding the Jews, was only a small part.  Luther&#039;s REAL issue was their denial of Jesus being the Messiah.  Luther never claimed to be perfect, but a sinner in need of God&#039;s mercy.  This attribute of humility makes him a hero in my book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luther was a man who took a stand.  So was Galileo.  Some of what Luther wrote, as was mentioned by Scott G, regarding the Jews, was only a small part.  Luther&#8217;s REAL issue was their denial of Jesus being the Messiah.  Luther never claimed to be perfect, but a sinner in need of God&#8217;s mercy.  This attribute of humility makes him a hero in my book!</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 09:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john grant isnt the best auther so have it and dont sulk to ur mummy like always</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john grant isnt the best auther so have it and dont sulk to ur mummy like always</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/blogposts/2009/05/16/who-is-your-role-model-luther-or-galileo/comment-page-1/#comment-45779</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 09:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my role model is lewis hamilton so mine is the best blud so have it and urs arnt the best so dont go and sulk to ur mummy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my role model is lewis hamilton so mine is the best blud so have it and urs arnt the best so dont go and sulk to ur mummy</p>
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		<title>By: Scott G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one bothers me quite a bit.  It is true that Luther stood up to the Church and this in itself would take great courage, but the threat was excommunication and not Death. 

Galileo was facing a death sentence, and given the circumstances, he was not able to turn to the Bible for support of his claims, and of course this was in the face of the Church itself, (which continues its aversion to scientific discovery today in so many ways they can&#039;t be counted).  

Half of the Christian church today, still believes that the earth was created 6000 years ago, and that there is no basis for evolution, though scientific discovery strongly supports both.

The other thing about Luther that Grant fails to mention is the controversy around his calls to seize the Jews wealth and possessions and to burn their homes down.

Not exactly the type of character I find in my heros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one bothers me quite a bit.  It is true that Luther stood up to the Church and this in itself would take great courage, but the threat was excommunication and not Death. </p>
<p>Galileo was facing a death sentence, and given the circumstances, he was not able to turn to the Bible for support of his claims, and of course this was in the face of the Church itself, (which continues its aversion to scientific discovery today in so many ways they can&#8217;t be counted).  </p>
<p>Half of the Christian church today, still believes that the earth was created 6000 years ago, and that there is no basis for evolution, though scientific discovery strongly supports both.</p>
<p>The other thing about Luther that Grant fails to mention is the controversy around his calls to seize the Jews wealth and possessions and to burn their homes down.</p>
<p>Not exactly the type of character I find in my heros.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 14:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, but I&#039;ll take Galileo over the psychosis of Luther any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but I&#8217;ll take Galileo over the psychosis of Luther any day.</p>
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