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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Doris is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Doris</span> </title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Luis,
I John 1:9 is very clear when it says that &#039;if we confess our sins He is righteous to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness&#039; so if you have confessed it to the Lord and asked for forgiveness then He has indeed forgiven you. 

There is also repentance involved and that&#039;s where your part comes in. Perhaps you and your boyfriend will have to agree not to be alone together so that you won&#039;t be tempted. Plan to do things with others, and only when others are alone. No overnight visits for sure.....and definitely no time alone with no one else around.

It is your guilt that is causing you to question God&#039;s forgiveness. God can and does forgive, and then we need to accept that forgiveness and change our behavior. It is only as the Holy Spirit fills us and we allow Him control that our actions will change. Ask Him to fill you up and take control of your life.  Check out this article that explains more about this http://powertochange.com/experience/spiritual-growth/start/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Luis,<br />
I John 1:9 is very clear when it says that &#8216;if we confess our sins He is righteous to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness&#8217; so if you have confessed it to the Lord and asked for forgiveness then He has indeed forgiven you. </p>
<p>There is also repentance involved and that&#8217;s where your part comes in. Perhaps you and your boyfriend will have to agree not to be alone together so that you won&#8217;t be tempted. Plan to do things with others, and only when others are alone. No overnight visits for sure&#8230;..and definitely no time alone with no one else around.</p>
<p>It is your guilt that is causing you to question God&#8217;s forgiveness. God can and does forgive, and then we need to accept that forgiveness and change our behavior. It is only as the Holy Spirit fills us and we allow Him control that our actions will change. Ask Him to fill you up and take control of your life.  Check out this article that explains more about this <a href="http://powertochange.com/experience/spiritual-growth/start/" rel="nofollow">http://powertochange.com/experience/spiritual-growth/start/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 06:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luls,
The first thing to know about this situation is that - are you a Christian? 
not because of the sin and not because you say you are. I cannot know you 
are because you say you are, but Christ said you will know them by their 
fruits. But because you say you are let us believe you have experienced 
Christ&#039;s forgiveness and you know that you have experienced the Lord by His 
Spirit in the relationship you have with Him.

Many may be quick to council you on the way to continue in some form of your 
effort or a struggle to victory or even just know that you are always a 
sinner and can continue to be saved by His grace because His mercy is huge. 
This will find you in a place that justifies your sin and other sins will 
pop up all over your life. You cannot in any way deal in any form of effort 
to gain victory. If that was the case you would have no need of the work 
done at Calvary.
This form of council is an insult to Christ our Lord and reduces the 
salvation plan to a humanist understanding of our Gospel and there is no 
other gospel than this !

what !

Your understanding of our Lord is what leaves you weak in your Christian 
walk. My people perish from a lack of understanding/knowledge. You must have 
the definition of knowledge first. Listen carefully because this first step 
in faith will be too easy you may miss it/ ------ KNOWLEDGE is the person of 
Christ. Did you get that?    The Jews were not confused in why they tried to 
kill Jesus, in fact they were very clear. They were killing Jesus because He 
was saying that He was &#039;God&#039;! Who do you know Him as? He said in many 
statements &quot;Before Abraham was, I AM&quot; . If you have a clear knowledge of 
this first bit of understanding that Christ is God then you are starting 
well.

The woman caught in adultery was in the same situation as you are - what was 
her response -- Lord  -- He said go and sin no more.

How easy is it for you to fall into sin - Read James 1:12- 16. You must know 
this that any person who has the Spirit can be lured out from His/Her 
relationship by the lust of their flesh. If you remain walking in the Spirit 
you will not Sin. So does Jesus mean more in your relationship than this 
boy?  If you hunger for Christ and remain in the vine you will not sin. 
Abide in Him. Once you have asked first the Lord to forgive you then by 
faith - not by feelings- By faith you will be forgiven. 10 out of 10 times 
its just a confession before our holy Lord that you&#039;ve grieved and 1 out of 
10 you may need to confess before man. This out of 10 is representative of 
importance to our Lord.

If you are in a right standing relationship with Christ you will taste the 
victory over all sin and you will know it is Him who keeps you. If he 
reveals through a temptation of your continuous failings (sin) then it only 
needs for you to take these failings to where it already has been dealt 
with - to the CROSS - all power of victory was wrought out their.

Please look at the history of these readings on this sight and you will see 
the Truth in what the Lord has spoken and you will see the subtlety of 
deception many come under by believing we will always be Sinners.

We are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses. The Lord has given you 
victory - have faith in Christ and hunger to be filled more and He will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luls,<br />
The first thing to know about this situation is that &#8211; are you a Christian?<br />
not because of the sin and not because you say you are. I cannot know you<br />
are because you say you are, but Christ said you will know them by their<br />
fruits. But because you say you are let us believe you have experienced<br />
Christ&#8217;s forgiveness and you know that you have experienced the Lord by His<br />
Spirit in the relationship you have with Him.</p>
<p>Many may be quick to council you on the way to continue in some form of your<br />
effort or a struggle to victory or even just know that you are always a<br />
sinner and can continue to be saved by His grace because His mercy is huge.<br />
This will find you in a place that justifies your sin and other sins will<br />
pop up all over your life. You cannot in any way deal in any form of effort<br />
to gain victory. If that was the case you would have no need of the work<br />
done at Calvary.<br />
This form of council is an insult to Christ our Lord and reduces the<br />
salvation plan to a humanist understanding of our Gospel and there is no<br />
other gospel than this !</p>
<p>what !</p>
<p>Your understanding of our Lord is what leaves you weak in your Christian<br />
walk. My people perish from a lack of understanding/knowledge. You must have<br />
the definition of knowledge first. Listen carefully because this first step<br />
in faith will be too easy you may miss it/ &#8212;&#8212; KNOWLEDGE is the person of<br />
Christ. Did you get that?    The Jews were not confused in why they tried to<br />
kill Jesus, in fact they were very clear. They were killing Jesus because He<br />
was saying that He was &#8216;God&#8217;! Who do you know Him as? He said in many<br />
statements &#8220;Before Abraham was, I AM&#8221; . If you have a clear knowledge of<br />
this first bit of understanding that Christ is God then you are starting<br />
well.</p>
<p>The woman caught in adultery was in the same situation as you are &#8211; what was<br />
her response &#8212; Lord  &#8212; He said go and sin no more.</p>
<p>How easy is it for you to fall into sin &#8211; Read James 1:12- 16. You must know<br />
this that any person who has the Spirit can be lured out from His/Her<br />
relationship by the lust of their flesh. If you remain walking in the Spirit<br />
you will not Sin. So does Jesus mean more in your relationship than this<br />
boy?  If you hunger for Christ and remain in the vine you will not sin.<br />
Abide in Him. Once you have asked first the Lord to forgive you then by<br />
faith &#8211; not by feelings- By faith you will be forgiven. 10 out of 10 times<br />
its just a confession before our holy Lord that you&#8217;ve grieved and 1 out of<br />
10 you may need to confess before man. This out of 10 is representative of<br />
importance to our Lord.</p>
<p>If you are in a right standing relationship with Christ you will taste the<br />
victory over all sin and you will know it is Him who keeps you. If he<br />
reveals through a temptation of your continuous failings (sin) then it only<br />
needs for you to take these failings to where it already has been dealt<br />
with &#8211; to the CROSS &#8211; all power of victory was wrought out their.</p>
<p>Please look at the history of these readings on this sight and you will see<br />
the Truth in what the Lord has spoken and you will see the subtlety of<br />
deception many come under by believing we will always be Sinners.</p>
<p>We are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses. The Lord has given you<br />
victory &#8211; have faith in Christ and hunger to be filled more and He will.</p>
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		<title>By: Luls</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/discover/faith/sinforgive/comment-page-1/#comment-1335625</link>
		<dc:creator>Luls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I have a problem.
I have had sex with my boyfriend and repented for the first time we did it. He visited my house and stayed for the weekend, and we had sex again continuosly this time. We are both christians, but we both did what we knew was wrong at the time. We agreed to never doing it agin, but i am feeling guilty and as though God can&#039;t forgive me this time. Also i feel embarassed going to my christian friends to confess because i confessed before and now feel i have exhausted people i can confess to. I need to confess and repent, and need help. Please advise and pray for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I have a problem.<br />
I have had sex with my boyfriend and repented for the first time we did it. He visited my house and stayed for the weekend, and we had sex again continuosly this time. We are both christians, but we both did what we knew was wrong at the time. We agreed to never doing it agin, but i am feeling guilty and as though God can&#8217;t forgive me this time. Also i feel embarassed going to my christian friends to confess because i confessed before and now feel i have exhausted people i can confess to. I need to confess and repent, and need help. Please advise and pray for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/discover/faith/sinforgive/comment-page-1/#comment-1303655</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 06:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,
Words can continue but the Lord is the Word. We speak not with the wisdom of 
this world , not with excellence of speech but by the demonstration of the 
power of the Spirit. Mans best effort falls far short from the Grace of God

Galatians 5:16-18 is used by many to prove they have two natures. They say 
“the flesh” is the sin nature, and the Spirit is the new nature. But these 
scriptures do not say this. The passage says only that these two, the flesh 
and the Spirit, are in opposition to one another.
The flesh and the Spirit are only in opposition to one another when a person 
is under the law. The law brings bondage, but the Spirit brings freedom. 
Verse 24 tells us, “Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the 
flesh with its passions and desires.” If the flesh is the old man or sin 
nature, it has been crucified—and that means death. But the flesh is not the 
sin nature; it is only the instrument that has been used by sin. Paul says 
he was sold into bondage to sin. Man has only one nature—a human nature. 
When he has faith that brings him into life, and is cleansed from all sin, 
that which makes him sin is changed through the new birth. Man was a wrong 
being, and now that he has been born again, he is brought back into proper 
relationship and fellowship with God.

Man does not need a “sin nature” to be able to sin. Adam sinned and did not 
have a sin nature. It is possible for Christians to sin without having a sin 
nature. They can be drawn out of their abiding place in Christ. If their 
relationship is as it should be, they are finding fulfillment in Christ, not 
in their own desires. If we are properly related to the Lord, we will be 
properly related to others and to things. But we can never let this mean 
that our desires and imaginations, minds and wills are not set aside for God’s 
use only. They must be disciplined by the Spirit as we are exercised to 
discern good and evil. There must be a working out of what God has worked in 
us.

Paul’s words in Romans 7 and Galatians 5 can never be taken to mean that we 
have two natures. In Romans 8 and in Galatians 5:18 we read words to this 
effect: “If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.” When you 
are under the law, you may not do the things you please. Romans 7 tells us 
that Paul wanted to do good, but could not. But Romans 8:2 tells us, “The 
law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of 
sin and of death.”

If Christians are going to rightly understand the seventh chapter of Romans, 
God must reveal to them whether this was Paul’s experience as a Christian or 
his past life’s experience under the law. This passage has been one of the 
problem texts pertaining to the two nature theory. One reason for wrong 
understanding is that man is trying to justify his experience, rather than 
allowing the Word of God to change him. The attitude we see today should 
cause us concern. Christians are trying to make room for sin in their lives, 
rather than looking for a way to be free from sin and thus please God as 
they walk in faith.

In this time we have too much natural thinking and man-made theology. We 
need to get back to God’s way and His working. The reason there is so little 
holiness today is that there is so little understanding of what God is doing 
and how He is doing it in us. We will never understand God’s ways if we do 
not have a personal relationship with Him. Out of this relationship comes 
the power to be sons of God and live in His life. Faith brings us into a 
vital experience of His life. We are not talking about the “eradification” 
or “identification” theories. We are speaking about what happens at new 
birth. That which is born out of the Spirit is spirit. We came into the 
world at one time in a human body through natural birth. Now if we are going 
to have eternal life, we must be born again—not born again in the flesh, but 
born again of the Spirit. God’s plan is perfect. He knows what we need to be 
made like Him. First we need to be made alive spiritually, and then we need 
to live His life by faith—not our life, which is governed by selfishness or 
our own passions and desires.

Paul’s desire for the believers was that “God sanctify you entirely. And may 
your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the 
coining of our Lord Jesus Christ” (I Thess. 5:23). Was this only wishful 
thinking on Paul’s part? Paul understood God’s plan and His working, and if 
we will seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness, Jesus will become our 
wisdom and knowledge. Only when we create a salvation that is separate from 
our relationship with Christ do we get into all these theories, which can 
never transform us into His image or bring us into full growth in Christ. 
God leaves no place for sin or a sin nature in His new creation.

I Peter 2:24 says, “He himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that 
we might die to sin and live to righteousness.” Those who hold to the two 
nature theory must see there was nothing that God could do to cause the old 
creation to fulfill His purpose. There had to be a new creation. Jesus said 
that you cannot put new wine in old wineskins—or both will be lost. We are a 
new creation in Christ Jesus. There is no place for any of the old in the 
new. We just need to “sanctify Christ as Lord in our hearts” (I Peter 3:15).

A proper understanding of law and grace would throw light on this area of 
our walk in Christ. Many say they are free, but they continue to battle, 
flesh against Spirit, because they are under the law. But Romans 7 says we 
died in Christ to the law, that we might be free to be joined to another. 
The law was our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we now may be justified by 
faith. Paul says we now are more than conquerors in Christ Jesus.

Paul tells us in Galatians 1:11 that the gospel he preaches is not according 
to man. He goes further in II Corinthian 7:1, and tells us to cleanse 
ourselves from all that can defile flesh or spirit, and in the fear of God 
to complete our consecration. This would not be possible if we had two 
natures. Paul further says in II Corinthians 6:16, “What agreement has the 
temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God!” How can 
this be possible in reality if what many say (that they still have a sin 
nature) is true? What contradiction and belittling of this great salvation!

Our bodies are not our natures. Emotions, mind and will are not our natures. 
When we were in sin we lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the 
desires of the flesh and of the mind. We were, by nature, children of wrath, 
but because of God’s mercy and love, when we were dead in our 
transgressions, He made us alive together with Christ (Eph. 1:3-5). Paul 
goes on to say in Ephesians 2:10, “We are His workmanship…”

The Scripture tells us to put off the old man, and put on the new man. If 
the old man were the sin nature, we would not be able to put it off, nor 
could we put on the new man if it were the new nature. The old, or sin 
nature is only a theory , which seemingly allows the believer to live in a 
condition other than utter dependence on Christ. Because ‘of this, he lives 
with a battle going on continuously.

I John 1:7 does not teach the need of a continual cleansing from continual 
sin: “If we continue to sin, we do not know Him.” Verses 8 and 10 are not 
speaking to Christians, but to those who said they had no sin or had not 
sinned, and had no need of forgiveness. John tells them, in the 9th verse, 
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins 
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” The scripture tells us that He 
will cleanse us from all unrighteousness, but many have been taught that 
this doesn’t mean what it says.

Many sincere brothers who have been used by God have had little 
understanding in the area of our personal holiness; thus they have gone off 
to justify their natural thinking and have come up with many theories which 
can never bring them to a place of faith. Faith must hear God. When man 
creates one false theory he usually ends up having to back it up with many 
other false theories. The truth sets us free to walk in the Spirit and do 
His will.

II Peter 1 :3 tells us, “His divine power has granted to us everything 
pertaining to life and godliness.” The following verses go on to reveal to 
us the outworking of our life in God as we “apply all diligence… “ This is 
not a struggle but a rest, a walk in relationship with Christ, as we allow 
Christ to work in us and through us. It is from our relationship with Him 
that all the manifestations of His divine nature are revealed in and through 
us.

Paul said, “I have been crucified with Christ (that is the old Paul).” He 
went on to say, “…the life which I now live in the flesh (this is the new 
Paul) I live by faith in the Son of God…” Then he said, “I do not nullify 
the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ 
died needlessly” (Gal. 2:21). We can see that most of the scriptures used to 
support the two nature theory would put the Christian right back under the 
law, if viewed in this way.

We need to seek God for understanding, that we might not nullify the grace 
of God, but be spiritual. We need to stop allowing ourselves to be taught by 
men with natural minds and natural understanding. This is not possible until 
we can recognize the word of God flowing through spiritual brethren. “The 
natural man received not the things of God. He cannot even know God’s ways 
or His working…” (I Cor. 2:14 RSV).

The salvation that is being preached today allows for sin, but the gospel of 
the New Testament gives no place for the Christian to practice sin. Man does 
have a human body, but that is not a sin nature. If it were, we would have 
to say that Christ had a sin nature because He had a body like ours. But 
Christ did not have a sin nature. We must conclude that the “nature” is not 
the body. Christ also had a mind, emotions, and a will, and they all were 
set aside for the Father’s will to be done through. So we must also conclude 
that the mind, emotions and will are not a sin nature, in Christ or in us.

Christ had a human nature, but this was not a sin nature. We also have a 
human nature, and it is not a sin nature. The human nature has only been 
used to express the sin which was in us because we were sinners. Our bodies 
and souls controlled us when we were sinners, but if we are in Christ, we 
are being controlled by the Spirit.

We pray that these truths will set you free from past theories and give you 
new confidence in your Christian walk.

Loving regards, In Christ

A brother concerned for the deceived ones (who are in Christ but may be part 
of the falling away)

2 Thes 2:1-9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,<br />
Words can continue but the Lord is the Word. We speak not with the wisdom of<br />
this world , not with excellence of speech but by the demonstration of the<br />
power of the Spirit. Mans best effort falls far short from the Grace of God</p>
<p>Galatians 5:16-18 is used by many to prove they have two natures. They say<br />
“the flesh” is the sin nature, and the Spirit is the new nature. But these<br />
scriptures do not say this. The passage says only that these two, the flesh<br />
and the Spirit, are in opposition to one another.<br />
The flesh and the Spirit are only in opposition to one another when a person<br />
is under the law. The law brings bondage, but the Spirit brings freedom.<br />
Verse 24 tells us, “Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the<br />
flesh with its passions and desires.” If the flesh is the old man or sin<br />
nature, it has been crucified—and that means death. But the flesh is not the<br />
sin nature; it is only the instrument that has been used by sin. Paul says<br />
he was sold into bondage to sin. Man has only one nature—a human nature.<br />
When he has faith that brings him into life, and is cleansed from all sin,<br />
that which makes him sin is changed through the new birth. Man was a wrong<br />
being, and now that he has been born again, he is brought back into proper<br />
relationship and fellowship with God.</p>
<p>Man does not need a “sin nature” to be able to sin. Adam sinned and did not<br />
have a sin nature. It is possible for Christians to sin without having a sin<br />
nature. They can be drawn out of their abiding place in Christ. If their<br />
relationship is as it should be, they are finding fulfillment in Christ, not<br />
in their own desires. If we are properly related to the Lord, we will be<br />
properly related to others and to things. But we can never let this mean<br />
that our desires and imaginations, minds and wills are not set aside for God’s<br />
use only. They must be disciplined by the Spirit as we are exercised to<br />
discern good and evil. There must be a working out of what God has worked in<br />
us.</p>
<p>Paul’s words in Romans 7 and Galatians 5 can never be taken to mean that we<br />
have two natures. In Romans 8 and in Galatians 5:18 we read words to this<br />
effect: “If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.” When you<br />
are under the law, you may not do the things you please. Romans 7 tells us<br />
that Paul wanted to do good, but could not. But Romans 8:2 tells us, “The<br />
law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of<br />
sin and of death.”</p>
<p>If Christians are going to rightly understand the seventh chapter of Romans,<br />
God must reveal to them whether this was Paul’s experience as a Christian or<br />
his past life’s experience under the law. This passage has been one of the<br />
problem texts pertaining to the two nature theory. One reason for wrong<br />
understanding is that man is trying to justify his experience, rather than<br />
allowing the Word of God to change him. The attitude we see today should<br />
cause us concern. Christians are trying to make room for sin in their lives,<br />
rather than looking for a way to be free from sin and thus please God as<br />
they walk in faith.</p>
<p>In this time we have too much natural thinking and man-made theology. We<br />
need to get back to God’s way and His working. The reason there is so little<br />
holiness today is that there is so little understanding of what God is doing<br />
and how He is doing it in us. We will never understand God’s ways if we do<br />
not have a personal relationship with Him. Out of this relationship comes<br />
the power to be sons of God and live in His life. Faith brings us into a<br />
vital experience of His life. We are not talking about the “eradification”<br />
or “identification” theories. We are speaking about what happens at new<br />
birth. That which is born out of the Spirit is spirit. We came into the<br />
world at one time in a human body through natural birth. Now if we are going<br />
to have eternal life, we must be born again—not born again in the flesh, but<br />
born again of the Spirit. God’s plan is perfect. He knows what we need to be<br />
made like Him. First we need to be made alive spiritually, and then we need<br />
to live His life by faith—not our life, which is governed by selfishness or<br />
our own passions and desires.</p>
<p>Paul’s desire for the believers was that “God sanctify you entirely. And may<br />
your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the<br />
coining of our Lord Jesus Christ” (I Thess. 5:23). Was this only wishful<br />
thinking on Paul’s part? Paul understood God’s plan and His working, and if<br />
we will seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness, Jesus will become our<br />
wisdom and knowledge. Only when we create a salvation that is separate from<br />
our relationship with Christ do we get into all these theories, which can<br />
never transform us into His image or bring us into full growth in Christ.<br />
God leaves no place for sin or a sin nature in His new creation.</p>
<p>I Peter 2:24 says, “He himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that<br />
we might die to sin and live to righteousness.” Those who hold to the two<br />
nature theory must see there was nothing that God could do to cause the old<br />
creation to fulfill His purpose. There had to be a new creation. Jesus said<br />
that you cannot put new wine in old wineskins—or both will be lost. We are a<br />
new creation in Christ Jesus. There is no place for any of the old in the<br />
new. We just need to “sanctify Christ as Lord in our hearts” (I Peter 3:15).</p>
<p>A proper understanding of law and grace would throw light on this area of<br />
our walk in Christ. Many say they are free, but they continue to battle,<br />
flesh against Spirit, because they are under the law. But Romans 7 says we<br />
died in Christ to the law, that we might be free to be joined to another.<br />
The law was our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we now may be justified by<br />
faith. Paul says we now are more than conquerors in Christ Jesus.</p>
<p>Paul tells us in Galatians 1:11 that the gospel he preaches is not according<br />
to man. He goes further in II Corinthian 7:1, and tells us to cleanse<br />
ourselves from all that can defile flesh or spirit, and in the fear of God<br />
to complete our consecration. This would not be possible if we had two<br />
natures. Paul further says in II Corinthians 6:16, “What agreement has the<br />
temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God!” How can<br />
this be possible in reality if what many say (that they still have a sin<br />
nature) is true? What contradiction and belittling of this great salvation!</p>
<p>Our bodies are not our natures. Emotions, mind and will are not our natures.<br />
When we were in sin we lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the<br />
desires of the flesh and of the mind. We were, by nature, children of wrath,<br />
but because of God’s mercy and love, when we were dead in our<br />
transgressions, He made us alive together with Christ (Eph. 1:3-5). Paul<br />
goes on to say in Ephesians 2:10, “We are His workmanship…”</p>
<p>The Scripture tells us to put off the old man, and put on the new man. If<br />
the old man were the sin nature, we would not be able to put it off, nor<br />
could we put on the new man if it were the new nature. The old, or sin<br />
nature is only a theory , which seemingly allows the believer to live in a<br />
condition other than utter dependence on Christ. Because ‘of this, he lives<br />
with a battle going on continuously.</p>
<p>I John 1:7 does not teach the need of a continual cleansing from continual<br />
sin: “If we continue to sin, we do not know Him.” Verses 8 and 10 are not<br />
speaking to Christians, but to those who said they had no sin or had not<br />
sinned, and had no need of forgiveness. John tells them, in the 9th verse,<br />
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins<br />
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” The scripture tells us that He<br />
will cleanse us from all unrighteousness, but many have been taught that<br />
this doesn’t mean what it says.</p>
<p>Many sincere brothers who have been used by God have had little<br />
understanding in the area of our personal holiness; thus they have gone off<br />
to justify their natural thinking and have come up with many theories which<br />
can never bring them to a place of faith. Faith must hear God. When man<br />
creates one false theory he usually ends up having to back it up with many<br />
other false theories. The truth sets us free to walk in the Spirit and do<br />
His will.</p>
<p>II Peter 1 :3 tells us, “His divine power has granted to us everything<br />
pertaining to life and godliness.” The following verses go on to reveal to<br />
us the outworking of our life in God as we “apply all diligence… “ This is<br />
not a struggle but a rest, a walk in relationship with Christ, as we allow<br />
Christ to work in us and through us. It is from our relationship with Him<br />
that all the manifestations of His divine nature are revealed in and through<br />
us.</p>
<p>Paul said, “I have been crucified with Christ (that is the old Paul).” He<br />
went on to say, “…the life which I now live in the flesh (this is the new<br />
Paul) I live by faith in the Son of God…” Then he said, “I do not nullify<br />
the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ<br />
died needlessly” (Gal. 2:21). We can see that most of the scriptures used to<br />
support the two nature theory would put the Christian right back under the<br />
law, if viewed in this way.</p>
<p>We need to seek God for understanding, that we might not nullify the grace<br />
of God, but be spiritual. We need to stop allowing ourselves to be taught by<br />
men with natural minds and natural understanding. This is not possible until<br />
we can recognize the word of God flowing through spiritual brethren. “The<br />
natural man received not the things of God. He cannot even know God’s ways<br />
or His working…” (I Cor. 2:14 RSV).</p>
<p>The salvation that is being preached today allows for sin, but the gospel of<br />
the New Testament gives no place for the Christian to practice sin. Man does<br />
have a human body, but that is not a sin nature. If it were, we would have<br />
to say that Christ had a sin nature because He had a body like ours. But<br />
Christ did not have a sin nature. We must conclude that the “nature” is not<br />
the body. Christ also had a mind, emotions, and a will, and they all were<br />
set aside for the Father’s will to be done through. So we must also conclude<br />
that the mind, emotions and will are not a sin nature, in Christ or in us.</p>
<p>Christ had a human nature, but this was not a sin nature. We also have a<br />
human nature, and it is not a sin nature. The human nature has only been<br />
used to express the sin which was in us because we were sinners. Our bodies<br />
and souls controlled us when we were sinners, but if we are in Christ, we<br />
are being controlled by the Spirit.</p>
<p>We pray that these truths will set you free from past theories and give you<br />
new confidence in your Christian walk.</p>
<p>Loving regards, In Christ</p>
<p>A brother concerned for the deceived ones (who are in Christ but may be part<br />
of the falling away)</p>
<p>2 Thes 2:1-9</p>
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		<description>Duncan I appreciate your commitment to the truth of what God has said to us in the Bible.  You point to many wonderful truths that we find there.  Our sinful nature has indeed been crucified with Christ and no longer has us held captive to only living to its influence.  And the corresponding truth is that Christ now lives in those who have put their trust in His sacrifice and surrendered to His control in their lives.  As Paul wrote, &quot;I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.&quot; (Galatians 2:20)  Later in that same letter Paul sets out the promise that if we walk with our attention on the Holy Spirit, listening to His direction and surrendering to His control in our lives, we will not satisfy the desires of the sinful nature (Galatians 5:16)  While that is a wonderful promise that we can actually live a pure life as we keep in step with the Spirit, it also implies that the desires of the sinful nature are still with us.  This reflects the reality that we are now living in the &quot;already but not yet&quot;.  So many aspects of the Christian life are explained by this understanding of the &quot;already but not yet&quot;.  Jesus has defeated Satan and death already but it is not completed yet, not until the Final Judgement when Satan will be sentenced to Hell for all of eternity.  His judgement has been mad already but it is not yet carried out.  Another example of the &quot;already but not yet&quot; is our relationship with God: it is true that as followers of Jesus He lives in us and we know Him already but not yet as completely as we will know Him when we meet face to face.  As Paul writes &quot;For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.&quot; (1Corinthians 13:12)  We can go on looking at examples of the &quot;already but not yet&quot;; the church is the Bride of Christ but we have yet to celebrate the Wedding Feast that will happen at the end of last days; followers of Jesus are already seated in the heavenly realms with Christ (Ephesians 2:6) but not yet are we there because God has still called us to live in this world.  Another example is the struggle between the Spirit of God within us and the sinful nature that we were born with.  Paul writes, &quot;For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.&quot; (Galatians 5:17)  In another place Paul writes about that struggle that he himself goes through, &quot;I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do-- this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God&#039;s law;&quot; (Romans 7:18-22)  Now I know that there are some people who would say that this description of Paul&#039;s life is from before he was a follower of Christ but that does not fit.  First of all it is written in present tense and we know that Paul is writing this long after his conversion.  Secondly, we know that the unregenerate man does not desire God&#039;s law, but only those things that are opposed to God.  It is only when the Holy Spirit convicts of sin that our desires change to want to follow God.  So this struggle between his sinful nature and the Spirit of God within him is a post-conversion experience.  This is another example for us of the &quot;already but not yet&quot;.  Our sinful nature has been crucified with Christ and we stand before God clothed in the righteousness of God Himself (2Corinthians 5:21) but not fully yet because we still have this body of flesh and we live in a fallen world.  That is why we can say &quot;I have been saved&quot; and &quot;I am being saved&quot; and &quot;I will be saved&quot;.  I have been saved when I accepted the gift of forgiveness through the sacrifice of Jesus.  But I can also say I am being saved because I am going through a process of sanctification (being purified by God to be used for His service) that will not be completed until I come face to face with my Lord.  At the same time I can also say I will be saved because it is only when my body has been raised incorruptible that I will be glorified and set free once and for all from my sinful nature, &quot;Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed-- in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.&quot; (1Corinthians 15:51-52)  

We also have examples of New Testament saints who fell in sin.  Paul tells of the time he had to rebuke Peter for being two faced, only eating with Gentiles when other Jews weren&#039;t around.  Paul himself had the argument with Barnabas over John Mark and his usefulness in ministry.  Later we see that Paul repented of his critical spirit and found that John Mark was useful to his ministry (Acts 15:37-39; 2Timothy 4:11)  Much of the letters in the New Testament include admonitions to followers of Jesus for the sin that they have in their lives.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong, no where will you find consolation for sin.  Sin is wrong and followers of Jesus are always told to strive to live under the control of the Spirit so that they do not sin.  Never do we read, &quot;I know you sinned but don&#039;t worry about it.&quot;  Instead we are told to confess our sins and repent.  So I understand why you would also want to join that chorus and encourage followers of Jesus to walk in the Spirit to have victory over sin.  But to say that our sinful nature no longer exists or no longer has influence on us is not accurate and not helpful.  It is true that we are no longer controlled by our sinful nature but we are still prone to its influence.  That will only be dealt with completely when we come face to face with God and in the blink of an eye we will be changed into our glorified, incorruptible self, to the glory of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan I appreciate your commitment to the truth of what God has said to us in the Bible.  You point to many wonderful truths that we find there.  Our sinful nature has indeed been crucified with Christ and no longer has us held captive to only living to its influence.  And the corresponding truth is that Christ now lives in those who have put their trust in His sacrifice and surrendered to His control in their lives.  As Paul wrote, &#8220;I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.&#8221; (Galatians 2:20)  Later in that same letter Paul sets out the promise that if we walk with our attention on the Holy Spirit, listening to His direction and surrendering to His control in our lives, we will not satisfy the desires of the sinful nature (Galatians 5:16)  While that is a wonderful promise that we can actually live a pure life as we keep in step with the Spirit, it also implies that the desires of the sinful nature are still with us.  This reflects the reality that we are now living in the &#8220;already but not yet&#8221;.  So many aspects of the Christian life are explained by this understanding of the &#8220;already but not yet&#8221;.  Jesus has defeated Satan and death already but it is not completed yet, not until the Final Judgement when Satan will be sentenced to Hell for all of eternity.  His judgement has been mad already but it is not yet carried out.  Another example of the &#8220;already but not yet&#8221; is our relationship with God: it is true that as followers of Jesus He lives in us and we know Him already but not yet as completely as we will know Him when we meet face to face.  As Paul writes &#8220;For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.&#8221; (1Corinthians 13:12)  We can go on looking at examples of the &#8220;already but not yet&#8221;; the church is the Bride of Christ but we have yet to celebrate the Wedding Feast that will happen at the end of last days; followers of Jesus are already seated in the heavenly realms with Christ (Ephesians 2:6) but not yet are we there because God has still called us to live in this world.  Another example is the struggle between the Spirit of God within us and the sinful nature that we were born with.  Paul writes, &#8220;For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.&#8221; (Galatians 5:17)  In another place Paul writes about that struggle that he himself goes through, &#8220;I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do&#8211; this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God&#8217;s law;&#8221; (Romans 7:18-22)  Now I know that there are some people who would say that this description of Paul&#8217;s life is from before he was a follower of Christ but that does not fit.  First of all it is written in present tense and we know that Paul is writing this long after his conversion.  Secondly, we know that the unregenerate man does not desire God&#8217;s law, but only those things that are opposed to God.  It is only when the Holy Spirit convicts of sin that our desires change to want to follow God.  So this struggle between his sinful nature and the Spirit of God within him is a post-conversion experience.  This is another example for us of the &#8220;already but not yet&#8221;.  Our sinful nature has been crucified with Christ and we stand before God clothed in the righteousness of God Himself (2Corinthians 5:21) but not fully yet because we still have this body of flesh and we live in a fallen world.  That is why we can say &#8220;I have been saved&#8221; and &#8220;I am being saved&#8221; and &#8220;I will be saved&#8221;.  I have been saved when I accepted the gift of forgiveness through the sacrifice of Jesus.  But I can also say I am being saved because I am going through a process of sanctification (being purified by God to be used for His service) that will not be completed until I come face to face with my Lord.  At the same time I can also say I will be saved because it is only when my body has been raised incorruptible that I will be glorified and set free once and for all from my sinful nature, &#8220;Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed&#8211; in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.&#8221; (1Corinthians 15:51-52)  </p>
<p>We also have examples of New Testament saints who fell in sin.  Paul tells of the time he had to rebuke Peter for being two faced, only eating with Gentiles when other Jews weren&#8217;t around.  Paul himself had the argument with Barnabas over John Mark and his usefulness in ministry.  Later we see that Paul repented of his critical spirit and found that John Mark was useful to his ministry (Acts 15:37-39; 2Timothy 4:11)  Much of the letters in the New Testament include admonitions to followers of Jesus for the sin that they have in their lives.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, no where will you find consolation for sin.  Sin is wrong and followers of Jesus are always told to strive to live under the control of the Spirit so that they do not sin.  Never do we read, &#8220;I know you sinned but don&#8217;t worry about it.&#8221;  Instead we are told to confess our sins and repent.  So I understand why you would also want to join that chorus and encourage followers of Jesus to walk in the Spirit to have victory over sin.  But to say that our sinful nature no longer exists or no longer has influence on us is not accurate and not helpful.  It is true that we are no longer controlled by our sinful nature but we are still prone to its influence.  That will only be dealt with completely when we come face to face with God and in the blink of an eye we will be changed into our glorified, incorruptible self, to the glory of God.</p>
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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Jamie is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Jamie</span> </title>
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		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Jamie is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Jamie</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 16:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeanne I know that Satan wants to weigh us down with guilt and shame for the things that we have done wrong but Jesus sets us free from all of those weights.  He said, &quot;Come to me all of you who are weary and weighed down and I will give you rest for your soul.&quot; (Matthew 11:28)  Jesus will take all of those concerns and fears and give you freedom from the weight of shame.  It is not because He helps you ignore the wrong things that you have done but because He has already paid the penalty and received the punishment for those sins.  He wants you to trust that His sacrifice was perfect and dealt with all of those sins already and you are forgiven completely!  You are no longer guilty!  Paul writes, &quot;God made Him [Jesus] who had no sin at all to become sin on our behalf so that we become the righteousness of God&quot; (2Corinthians 5:21)  That means when Jesus died on the cross and rose from death to life He took all of our sin and paid the penalty for it.  In exchange we receive His perfection!  We are now perfectly righteous!  &quot;So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. For the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you through Christ Jesus from the power of sin that leads to death.&quot; (Romans 8:1-2)  God does not condemn you anymore for those wrongs you have done.  The one who condemns us is Satan and ourselves.  So many people want to try and take control of their own lives and reject God&#039;s offer of forgiveness through Jesus and His sacrifice for us.  But if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God who lived perfect and yet died so that the penalty for your sins would be paid for and that He now lives to help all those who submit to His direction and control, and you trust your life into His hands, then you are forgiven and free from any condemnation.

Does that make sense to you?  Have you accepted Jesus&#039; offer of forgiveness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeanne I know that Satan wants to weigh us down with guilt and shame for the things that we have done wrong but Jesus sets us free from all of those weights.  He said, &#8220;Come to me all of you who are weary and weighed down and I will give you rest for your soul.&#8221; (Matthew 11:28)  Jesus will take all of those concerns and fears and give you freedom from the weight of shame.  It is not because He helps you ignore the wrong things that you have done but because He has already paid the penalty and received the punishment for those sins.  He wants you to trust that His sacrifice was perfect and dealt with all of those sins already and you are forgiven completely!  You are no longer guilty!  Paul writes, &#8220;God made Him [Jesus] who had no sin at all to become sin on our behalf so that we become the righteousness of God&#8221; (2Corinthians 5:21)  That means when Jesus died on the cross and rose from death to life He took all of our sin and paid the penalty for it.  In exchange we receive His perfection!  We are now perfectly righteous!  &#8220;So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. For the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you through Christ Jesus from the power of sin that leads to death.&#8221; (Romans 8:1-2)  God does not condemn you anymore for those wrongs you have done.  The one who condemns us is Satan and ourselves.  So many people want to try and take control of their own lives and reject God&#8217;s offer of forgiveness through Jesus and His sacrifice for us.  But if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God who lived perfect and yet died so that the penalty for your sins would be paid for and that He now lives to help all those who submit to His direction and control, and you trust your life into His hands, then you are forgiven and free from any condemnation.</p>
<p>Does that make sense to you?  Have you accepted Jesus&#8217; offer of forgiveness?</p>
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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Jamie is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Jamie</span> </title>
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		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Jamie is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Jamie</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeanne is there someone at your church that you can talk to about these things?  It is a terrible load to have to carry by yourself.  You also can connect with one of our online mentors.  If you fill out the Mentor Request Form at http://powertochange.com/discover/talk-to-a-mentor one of our mentors will contact you right away by email.  You can also go to this site  http://www.suicidepreventionhelp.com/directory/Crisis_Centers and find the number for a Crisis Center near you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeanne is there someone at your church that you can talk to about these things?  It is a terrible load to have to carry by yourself.  You also can connect with one of our online mentors.  If you fill out the Mentor Request Form at <a href="http://powertochange.com/discover/talk-to-a-mentor" rel="nofollow">http://powertochange.com/discover/talk-to-a-mentor</a> one of our mentors will contact you right away by email.  You can also go to this site  <a href="http://www.suicidepreventionhelp.com/directory/Crisis_Centers" rel="nofollow">http://www.suicidepreventionhelp.com/directory/Crisis_Centers</a> and find the number for a Crisis Center near you.</p>
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		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Jamie is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Jamie</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeanne, I am praying for you and your family.

Lord God I pray for Jeanne as she goes through these dark days.  I pray that Your light would shine into her life and rescue her from the thoughts of killing herself.  I pray that You would help her to know how much You love her and that You have a perfect plan for her life.  Give her strength and comfort right now Lord.  Bring people into her life who will speak Your truth and love and help her to get a brighter perspective on life. In the power of Jesus name, amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeanne, I am praying for you and your family.</p>
<p>Lord God I pray for Jeanne as she goes through these dark days.  I pray that Your light would shine into her life and rescue her from the thoughts of killing herself.  I pray that You would help her to know how much You love her and that You have a perfect plan for her life.  Give her strength and comfort right now Lord.  Bring people into her life who will speak Your truth and love and help her to get a brighter perspective on life. In the power of Jesus name, amen.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne Lyn T. Estose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 07:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to all my brothers and sisters in Christ please pray my family especially me because   i have a big problem i want to kill myself because of these problem.I love my husband and my son i don&#039;t want to loss them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to all my brothers and sisters in Christ please pray my family especially me because   i have a big problem i want to kill myself because of these problem.I love my husband and my son i don&#8217;t want to loss them.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 06:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Jeanne Lyn T. Estose a seventh day adventist,please help me God for all my problems please enlightened my mind.</description>
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