What happens to the soul after suicide?

Written by Lynette Hoy NCC, LCPC

soulsuicideWhat happens to one’s soul/spirit after suicide?I recently had a close friend commit suicide and I am so worried that she will still not be at peace with herself. She had an anxiety disorder due to a troubled childhood and although she loved life, her friends, and her family, she just could not be independent as she could not relax.

We struggled together with this for so long. She was a creative and loving individual who had traveled much and lived away from us for a few years, so she had known independence. She feared for her sanity – she explained to me that she wanted to die because she actually did love herself and the constant thoughts going through her head would eventually turn into madness. I dearly love her and couldn’t bear to think that she will eternally go through this struggle. I am searching within myself to find meaning in my loss.

Advice: It’s obvious that you were and are a very close and loving friend. You have suffered with your friend right up to the end and beyond. You cared about her welfare, her emotional and spiritual state. But, now this tragedy has occurred and no matter what you or anyone tried to do – she has passed into eternity.

First of all, I want to tell you that your friend’s suicide and death was not anyone’s fault. Her suicide was the result of her choice and her psychological instability. Don’t let false guilt and self-blame take over. You and others tried to help. But, this woman is the one who made the choice despite all your pleadings and intervention.

Secondly, you need to grieve your friend’s death. You will go through several stages of loss: shock and denial, protest and dealing with the reality of her death, anger, confusion, depression and finally, reorganization. It’s normal to grieve. It’s important to care for yourself. You may need counseling. Go to your pastor for prayer and support. Read your Bible, especially the Psalms and the gospel of John. Jesus talks about God’s love for you and for the world, His plan to give you eternal life (John 3:16) and abundant life (John 10:10). Scripture will bring you comfort and hope for the future – hope for eternity.

The Bible does have stories about people who committed suicide but, it doesn’t talk about where their souls went – to heaven or to hell. But, Jesus promised: “I am the resurrection and the life – he who believes in me though he may die – yet shall he live.” John 11:25 If your friend trusted in Christ as her Lord and Savior – she is in heaven today. How do I know? Because Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.” John 14:6

Jesus claimed to be God, to speak the truth and the words of God. He died on the cross for the sins of the whole world and then, rose from the dead on the their day. Over 500 witnesses saw the resurrected Christ!
Because of these facts – you can have great hope for the future! You can trust that Christ loved your friend greatly and will judge her justly.

Suicide is a devastating experience to those who loved its victim. Suicide happens because the person is so depressed and has not received the appropriate treatment – mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually.

But, suicide, though a sin, can be forgiven – at the foot of the cross where all sin is wiped away when one believes in the Savior who sacrificed Himself to redeem the world.

You will never feel comfortable with what happened. A life was lost. But, you can trust that God can bring good out of this circumstance. God can become more personal to you in this time of suffering. God can give you courage and make you a person of character with strong values. God can demonstrate His love and comfort to you during your pain. God can give you more wisdom to help others who have suffered.

This world is a broken place – a place that is not our home. We are just passing through. Your friend could not stand the emotional and mental turmoil she experienced. But, you can. You and God can go on.

She ended her stay on earth and God allowed her to do it. He did not cause her to do it because He is not the author of evil. He does allow people to make choices which are against His will. But, you can find hope and courage to discover God’s will for your earthly life. You can leave a legacy that will give others hope for tomorrow and for eternity.

If you find you are depressed and anxious because of this – see a counselor. You can find a counselor. God bless you as you discover what He has in store for you even in the midst of this loss.

Take a look at your life. How would you describe it? Contented? Rushed? Exciting? Stressful? Moving forward? Holding back? For many of us it’s all of the above at times. There are things we dream of doing one day, there are things we wish we could forget. In the Bible, it says that Jesus came to make all things new.

What would your life look like if you could start over with a clean slate?

Living with hope

If you are looking for peace, there is a way to balance your life. No one can be perfect, or have a perfect life. But every one of us has the opportunity to experience perfect grace through a personal relationship with God through His Son, Jesus Christ.

You can receive Christ right now by faith through prayer. Praying is simply talking to God. God knows your heart and is not so concerned with your words as He is with the attitude of your heart. Here’s a suggested prayer:

Lord Jesus, I want to know you personally. Thank you for dying on the cross for my sins. I open the door of my life to you and ask you to come in as my Savior and Lord. Take control of my life. Thank you for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. Make me the kind of person you want me to be.

Does this prayer express the desire of your heart? You can pray it right now, and Jesus Christ will come into your life, just as He promised.

Is this the life for you?

If you invited Christ into your life, thank God often that He is in your life, that He will never leave you and that you have eternal life. As you learn more about your relationship with God, and how much He loves you, you’ll experience life to the fullest.

Read more about faith
Read more about depression, anxiety, and fear
Read about grieving
Read more about suicide

Lynette Hoy, NCC, LCPC

© copyright 2003 Lynette Hoy, NCC, LCPC



399 Responses to “What happens to the soul after suicide?”

  • Sharon says:

    to Chrystina why are you saying that you believe in heaven but won’t get there if you make a bad choice any experiences you had to say this if you repent and believe in JESUS as your personal savior people will go to heaven when they die I know you are just saying thank you for your comment— sharon

  • chrystina says:

    I do believe in heaven and u will not go there if u make a bad choice. Just sayin u could look at this all day????? or this?????? just sayin. It’s ur choice

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Hi Caly, it sounds like you are pretty upset. Is this something that has been building for a while or is there something recently that has impacted you so strongly? I would like to give you help and support and I will if you let me but at this point, your safety is most important. Please contact a professional counselor right away. You will be surprised at how talking with someone can help give a different perspective on things. I know you want life to be better so I ask you to call and give it chance to turn things around.

    I’ve included some emergency phone lines for you below:
    Dial 911 in Canada and USA
    1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433) USA & Canada
    1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255) USA-National
    Hearing impaired call 1-800-799-4TTY (1-800-799-4889) USA
    Centerstone(Suicide Crisis Call Center) 1-800-273-TALK (8255) USA

  • caly says:

    god doesnt exist so…..[expletive removed] …….im gonna commit sucide if i want i dont care where i go anymore i am 14 years old……..goodbye jesus belivers he doesnt exist…….he makes the best people feel the worst about them selves so……[expletive removed] bye

  • lookingup says:

    Re: Nihanth,

    The reason that one should not commit suicide is that it is murder. Another reason is that your maker said in John 14:19 “BECAUSE I LIVE, YOU SHOULD LIVE ALSO.”

    Religion has nothing to do with suffering? I disagree, I think it has everything to do with it. I believe God created this world, free from all suffering. Man screwed it up by not listening to God and going his own way, which brought suffering into the world. The good news is that we have been promised that it will not continue this way forever. God’s promise is that at some point in the future He will bring and end to this age of suffering and for all those who put their trust in Him, all suffering will end.

    I understand your frustration with all of it Nihanth but all of this can either make us bitter at God or we can choose to have Him pay for all of our faults and have Him put an end to it all. But when He does it is vital (just as Chris said) that you are on His side.

    If you or anyone commits suicide without being on God’s side your suffering will never end. Your idea that one could continue to commit suicide is not a valid one. Scripture says that we are appointed “once” to die. One could be successful at killing themselves once but after that it will be impossible.

    So people should be very careful that their actions are based on fact, for the consequences will last forever.

  • Chris says:

    nihanth….i regret to hear that you have suffered in your life. while its true that jesus told us we would have challenges, he also told us to be of good cheer because he had personally overcome the world for us. we can walk in his victory he has set before us. if you would like more information on learning how to walk personally in victory in your life through the power of jesus christ log onto knowingjesuspersonally.com or click talk to a mentor above. i can assure you that whatever problem you might face, jesus will give you of his grace and power to overcome it so you can help others through christ with their problems as well. my prayer for you that you find rest in christ today!

  • Nihanth says:

    I do not understand why a person must not commit suicide, suicide is the perfect option for many in this world, they can choose suicide over suffering. Any body cannot help you , [expletive removed] god with his [expletive removed] bible. Religion has nothing to do with human suffering. After all what we will do with living. Nothing. Only to praise god and for that purpose god has created this endless suffering. To praise him. Indirectly his is telling praise him or I will kill you with suffering unbearable. you will be undergone through many ill fates if you do not come to god. that is the [expletive removed] gods principle. I tell you If god has given you life then commit suicide, we do not want a life to live. If he give you another life , then commit suicide again, to that extent, he is bored of giving life to you. Coming to life means you are prone to problems. I do not accept life from god , if he give me 1000 lifes to life , I will commit suicides 1000 times , that is my motto.

  • Nihanth says:

    First of all a life is gone . That is real. And all the things to pacify us are [expletive removed]. The person who committed a suicide does not want to take life, but she is suffering from a mental illness, do you know how sad and how painful the suffering will be, all the spiritual leaders will go on telling great words, as if nothing had happened, but suffering is such pain that to come out of it is not so easy. Many people who have brain disorders such as anxiety , depression, another brain demon OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder). Many have been suffering from decades and dare not you dirty [expletive removed] of god beings to decrease the condition and suffering with your babbling words and stupid ideas of god. The idiot god is sitting in his divine [expletive removed] and who cares about this suffering, it goes on and on. I do not find any fault with that woman who committed suicide first of all, what that poor woman can do , what torture she may have undergone, what painful thoughts destroying that womans sanity and peace of mind. All the religious leaders of the world should atleast undergo that such of torture for at least a 2 years then they will get an idea. Simply speaking is not enough , you fools, because that idiot God cannot help you. If he can help he can help you from committing suicide and also giving salvation to the entire world now and in this present moment. Not even a single person is uncapable of committing sin in this world, then it seems like god has created this world only to commit sin and blunders, he finds satisfaction only through it . He seems like to be a perverted [expletive removed] , the supreme pervert. Even this religious idiots who think they are the apostles of god are nothing but a piece of [expletive removed]. If undergone through certain brain changes , they too will become mad and commit suicide. What they know of other peoples suffering, I am not talking about suffering of financial crisis or something, but talking about brain disorders. They do not have the idea about it. There is no wrong in that woman. Do you know a person suffering from this disease cannot rest or be at peace, they will be going through constant thoughts of suicide and unbearable pain. Their brain is their enemy. If they have come to a decision to end their life , it is simply because of their pain their condition is causing them. Talking about god or any idiot will not stop these pains until annihilation of human race. Only through complete annihilation do the pain stop. Can you tell me at what phase of human history does there is no pain. You cannot tell. You are just a idiotic religious fellow who cannot experience pain of other people who suffer . Every body does a lot of religious talk, I plead every religious idiot to study disorders and get an idea about it. They have to go to disorder persons and look and feel through the experience. Talking will not help , and it had not helped any one.

  • Chris says:

    g.shanthani….this is very sad to hear. we know in this world that leaving it is inevitable, sometimes sooner than one thinks. we need to be ready since noone has their life guaranteed not even for one more day. jesus christ died on the cross to guarantee us eternal life so that even when the physical life ends, the soul can continue living eternally with him in glory. the key however is forgiveness of our sins since noone can enter heaven guilty of their sins. jesus took our guilt upon himself and was punished in our placed, dying on our behalf. by receiving him today into your heart, you can have everlasting life through him. for more information on knowing jesus personally and his forgiveness of your sins log onto knowingjesuspersonally.com or click talk to a mentor above. my prayer for you is jesus consolation and understanding about this life and the hope in the next through him. blessings and peace to you today!

  • g.shanthani says:

    Hi i got married before 6 months. But this month may first i lost my husband… We r love married i can not able to forget him. I dont want to live without him…. Still i love him very much
    he attened suicide for a small missunderstanding between me and him… Bcoz he is loving me very much. So i can not able to live… I want to die and i want meet him…. His name is umapathy

  • g.shanthani says:

    Hi i got married before 6 months. But this month may first i lost my husband… We r love married i can not able to forget him. I dont want to live without him…. Still i love him very much

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Hi Anon, I am not sure why you are angry at this article and God but I know that killing yourself is not the best answer. What is going on in your life that makes you feel that death is the best option? Does your anger at God play into that? How has He hurt you?

    Let me ask that before you do anything to hurt yourself please call 1-800-784-2433 and talk with a crisis counselor there. Talking to someone could help in changing your perspective on things and find new solutions to the struggles you find yourself in.

    Let me pray for you: Dear Jesus, I pray for this individual and ask that You help guide his/her decisions. Help Anon to make the call to the crisis counselor and through that bring some hope back into Anon’s life. I know that You love Anon more than any of us can imagine. I pray that he/she would sense that love right now. Amen.

    Anon we can talk here if you would like, or if you want a more private conversation you can connect with one of our mentors through email. Just fill out the Mentor Request Form at http://powertochange.com/discover/talk-to-a-mentor and one of our mentors will connect with you soon by email. It is free and private. Feel free to talk about why you are angry at God. No one is going to get worked up over that. Maybe talking about it will bring some new ideas that you hadn’t considered before.

    I will be praying for you.

  • anon says:

    [expletive removed] you all and your god im killing myself

  • Jesse Dobbins says:

    Ok so not one person knows JESUS himself committed suicide? ?? I mean he did knowingly and willingly take that walk correct!!!! I say you know if your a SAVED SOUL or not JESUS actually took part in his on death hut my friends I did it for a reason only to mend those HEARTS that surely was HELL bound. …So in fact JESUS surely did catch a charge for assesory to suicide/murder !! But rest assure his heart was pure an his time was then.. I guess what I’m saying is you better be dang sure of your righteousness before hand…And I’m certain if I was to buy my ticket Home today, There would be a few HELLBOUND HEARTS TO that would see MY FATHERS HOUSE !!!!! But the truth is your already in HELL look around. ….this so called life here no my friends life is after you redeemed worthy…and you don’t wanna be earthly worthy you wanna be commandment worthy. ….So make time to help someone …give your neighbor a cup of JESUS …don’t listen to this new age sex you up music in front of your children don’t send to the babysitters on your day off. ..treat people better than yourself. …do.t lie cheat or steal or revenge/avenge let GOD do it !!!! You follow the rules an you’ll feel it ….an it feels wonderful. ..but I must say for those who think repentance a of sin against man must be asked forgiveness from that one you wronged (yes confession by mouth to man) not a catholic confession silly there not GOD nor the one young wronged are they???????? FOLLOW GODS HEART AND YOULL BE TESTED TO THE FULLEST DONT GIVE UP BECAUSE YOULL BRLE THE FOOLEST. ..ITS ALL ABOUT HELPING EACH OTHER NOT WANT YOU DRIVE NOR THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY DEVICE C’MON PEOPLE IMAGINE IF YOU WERE GOD LOOKING DOWN WERE ABUNCH OF IDIOTS CHASING WHAT JESUS SURELY DIDNT LIKE MONEY …RUSHING WERE AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY SLOW DOWN …THE MARKETERS HAVE RUINED LIFE ALL WE DO IS WORK AWAY FROM FAMILY IF YOU SPEND MORE TIME AT WORK THAN WITH YOUR LOVED ONES ARE YOU GOING TO THE GOOD LIFE ??????

    $$$$$$$$ HELL NO $$$$$$$$

  • Chris says:

    Jenny…sorry to hear of your struggles…as you know within yourself, taking your life isnt the answer. please share the problems you are facing and we will seek jesus together for his answers for you. waiting for your next blog!!

  • pilgrim says:

    Hi Jennie,

    I’m reading – currently at page 30 – (Man Search for Meaning by Dr. Frankl – he survived the Holocaust he was prisoner in auschwitz) – hopefully it help. (if you are not important I would not write this message – so you are important at least to me)

    Dr. Frankl, author-psychiatrist, sometimes asks his patients who suffer from a multitude of torments great and small, “Why do you not commit suicide?” From their answers he can often find the guide-line for his psycho-therapy: in one life there is love for one’s children to tie to; in another life, a talent to be used; in a third, perhaps only lingering memories worth preserving.

    if you are interested read this (link below) and get help from professional:

    or google “Man Search for Meaning PDF”

    Good luck

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Hi Kym, thanks for sharing your insights from your experiences. What kind of issues were you dealing with that brought you to the place of seriously considering suicide? What did God say or do for you that ‘ripped away the veil of deception’?

    It is a delicate balance isn’t it? On one hand, we have the great hope that Jesus lives in us leading and guiding us to deal with anything that comes our way. Even though we might prefer that He remove all the pain and sorrow from our life, we know that more often He helps us as we walk through the pain instead of avoid the pain. You can be sure that Jesus is not leading people to end their own life.

    However, we also know that we are all dependent on the death of Jesus to deal with the penalty for our sin. If entrance into heaven was dependent on dying with no unconfessed sin (sorry for the double negative) not many of us would make it. Our hope for freedom from the condemnation of our sin is in Jesus alone. We neither add nor subtract anything from what He has done on our behalf. That’s why Paul is able to write, “There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.” (Romans 8:1) This is immediately preceded by Paul’s own confession that he is still prone to sin, “So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me.” (Romans 7:21-23) I don’t know one follower of Jesus who cannot identify with that statement.

    So for those who are wrestling with thoughts of suicide we can say that Jesus will help them no matter what pain, sorrow, shame, or torment they face. Look to Him every minute and He will guide you. He will save you from the lure of ending it all. Know that His death on the cross paid the penalty for all of your sin and there is nothing that stands between you and God because Jesus has taken all of that on Himself. So in your pain, pursue Him. In Your sorrow, find comfort in Him. In your shame, experience freedom in Him. Know that when you come face-to-face with God, you will be welcomed with open arms because Jesus’ death has perfectly dealt with everything that had separated you from God. Trust in His sacrifice for you and live every moment under the love and guidance of the Good Shepherd.

  • Elkay says:

    Jennie, please know deep inside that you are important in the sight of God. He says, “You are precious to me … and I love you” (Isaiah 43:4, TLB). The very reason Jesus Christ came to earth to offer Himself in sacrifice is so that we might have life in all its fullness, and it is His desire that we be set free from depression, fear, frustration, and hurt so that we might experience this abundant life. Furthermore, God has good reasons for your life, for He also says “we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Eph 2:10)

    The most important thing you can do right now is to anchor your life solidly to Jesus Christ by committing your life without reserve to Him. God loves you, and He wants you to be part of His family. All you have to do is turn to Christ and ask Him to come into your heart as your Lord and Savior. Have you made that commitment to Christ? Turn to Him now—and then you will have a new desire to live a life with purpose.

    Also, remember that God often uses other people to help us. Many who struggle with suicidal feelings benefit from talking with someone who can pray with them and help sort things out. We would urge you to counsel with a Gospel-preaching pastor in your area. You may also benefit from the advice of a professional Christian counselor. For referrals to individual Christian counselors near you, you may contact the following: Focus on the Family, http://www.family.org/ telephone: (719) 531-3400, or the Narramore Christian Foundation, http://www.ncfliving.org/ telephone: (818) 288-7000, or RAPHA, telephone: 1-800-383-HOPE.

  • Kym says:

    I don’t mean to sound harsh, but I am going to dismantle this lie for Christians who may be reading this while contemplating suicide. Saying that someone has TRUSTED in Christ as Savior and LORD, then committed suicide is a contradiction. If we are saved by grace through faith, then how is suicide an act of faith? Grace empowers people to have faith and overcome. Would the Lord consider suicide as having faith in Him? Is repentance a one time occurrence or a continual process as the Holy Spirit transforms us by the renewing of our mind? Is it possible to fall away or abandon the faith by your free will and choice? Where does it say sins past, present, and FUTURE are forgiven when you confess and repent? We’re asking people to trust in a prayer and a feeling they had once when we know that the heart is desperately wicked and deceptive. Dangerous. God knows the end from the beginning. He only seals overcomers who will finish the race. The rest are false converts who either received the word with joy, yet withered when trials and tribulations came or were choked out by the thorns – the cares and concerns of this world. They placed their trust in a false god based on their feelings or inferences, but obviously did not place their trust in Jesus Christ who will always provide a way of escape. This is why we need to fervently pray and preach against suicide because it’s a trap that I almost fell for once. Thank God He saved me and ripped away the veil of deception.

  • jenn says:

    Jennie, I understand that about what you stated up there was a cry for help ,I know how you felt ,I was there before .I’m not going to sugarcoat this so if you’re serious about this please take this answer seriously .in this life there are going to be hardships and things will be rough ,I battle with depression off and on so I understand what you’re saying but there is hope .the dark cloud is a spiritual battle which can be prevailed through .I don’t know if you are religious ,to be honest I don’t like that term whatsoever .religion is man made ,Jesus Christ is real , God Almighty .now that you’ve read this you know the truth read up on a search for yourself you will find peace while you are searching .all I can say is you definitely don’t want to commit suicide ,please trust me when I say will be the hugest regret you’ve ever experienced in your whole eternity .

  • Jennie says:

    i plan to commit suicide. I feel so sad. I feel so hopeless with my life. I see no future forme but Im scared what happens after I commit this?
    Ive commit it 10yrs back but it was unsuccessful, now I just had to make sure that it will be successful.

  • Chris says:

    Jerome…if you are wanting to speak for God as you should according to 1 peter 4.11, then you will need to base your statements on Gods words. the fact that jesus invites us to come to him with our burdens was not concluded by jesus in saying you will go to hell if you dont. John 3.16 is clear with Matthew 12.31. the only sin jesus said that was unforgiveable was mentioned in Matthew 12.32 and suicide isnt mentioned so i would ask you to please not speak for jesus without speaking what jesus himself said. blessings

  • jerome says:

    pls brothersand sisters dont believe this. if u suicide u will be straight gng to hell ,which is far worser than this world. u dont have any authority over ur life which the lord the Saviour Jesus Christ gave u to live in full. Jesus told in bible those who are heavy ladden come to me and i will give u rest. Therefore Jesus is the only soulution for all your problems


  • Trish Hicks says:

    I can feel for ones who feel rejected.I have been there many time after time.But what i have learned in my walk with the Lord that w have to like ourselves first before anyone else can like or so much as love us.Proverbs23:Proverbs 23:7King James Version (KJV)7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
    Others sense somehow i had to find this out the hard way. If you walk into a party say by yourself thinking ah no one is going to like me why am i going?People are going to sense the insecurity.And they will just react as you are thinking ones will.Rejecting you.If you walk around thinking i am no one,No one will listen to me no one cares,people sense that and they won’t care.I haven’t clue in my mind how this is.But i have noticed a huge change in my life changing the way i think of myself.
    Self confidence is the key. I have found that reading the bible and walking with christ has given me all the confidence i need.Because my confidence is in him Christ that he will and can do all things,to which i can do all things in his strength with my confidence in him .Having confidence in him,in turn helps you to have confidence in yourself.Knowing that all that matters is Christ loves me whoever doesn’t it is not important.
    This is not an easy concept to come to but with practice and keeping in the word which is the most important key, as time goes by it gets a little easier and easier.

    I do hope this has helped someone.My prayers go out to all who suffer from lack of self confidence ,because again I have been there.

    To me suicide may help stop our pain but sure causes a lot for others.So to me that is not being Christ like because being a disciple of Christ we are to be thinking of others,before our own comforts and desires.
    As to where the soul goes after suicide,at first i used to always think anyone committing suicide would go straight to hell.However in time i have learned,if you have been walking with Christ,and you are his child,and commit suicide for one reason or another,absolutely nothing,other then turning and committing the unpardonable sin can take you out of God’s hands.Is what i believe.I could be wrong,i could be dead wrong,but in my heart this is what i believe the spirit has told me.
    Numbers6:22-Numbers 6:22-27King James Version (KJV)

    22 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

    23 Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them,

    24 The Lord bless thee, and keep thee:

    25 The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

    26 The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

    27 And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel, and I will bless them.

  • Don says:

    There is a misconception about calling 911 and forcing someone into a 72 hour detention. Not every mental health facility is the same. I had and 13 years later still have major depression. When I was forced into detention, my experience was horrifying and multiplied my depression many times. I was like a caged animal, striking out at anyone and anything. It would eventually destroy my relations with family and friends. The staff were untrained,uncaring,without empathy. It was all about control. It was a prison. Only through the grace of God did I survive. I do now understand that if someone really wants to commit suicide, there isn’t to much, physical, anyone can do to stop it. They can be very creative and determined if they want to be. Only constant love and understanding can the cycle be broken. Do not give up on them, no matter how angry they may be. And never never yell at them. They will pull inside their shell even more. If they fight you. Hold them closer. And ignore what they say. I promise you that they will eventually understand that you love them and they will concede. It won’t be easy, but be more determined, than they are, and you will be successful and help them.

  • Elkay says:

    Chris, James 1:2 is a rather short verse, but it contains tremendous insight into the issue of life’s trials. The phrase “when you encounter various trials” includes three key words that demonstrate the universality of man’s hardships. First, it is significant that James uses the word “when.” This defines the issue; undergoing trials is not a matter of if but rather when. Second, when he says that you will “encounter” misfortune, he is stating that difficulties will arise unexpectedly; there may be no time to prepare for these dilemmas. Third, he uses the adjective “various” to denote the ever-changing, often-surprising forms in which trials appear.

    There are 2 videos about dealing with pain on the following web-site and I hope you can find the time and energy to watch them.


    Dear Heavenly Father,
    Thank you that in the midst of tribulation, Chris can choose to trust You because You are trustworthy. Regardless of the circumstances being faced, You are and always will be good. Please send relief in these times of inner pain and send forth Your Spirit to give the faith to trust you fully. Amen.

  • dream says:

    Chris.. Nobody is judging you We all have pains and sufferings. Evil will take care to give us as much pain as possible. Some people can bear it better some not. Some trouble for somebody is nothing for other person the same trouble can mean a big thing. We should support each other in Christ.

  • Chris says:

    chris…sorry to hear of your pain…your life is important to me as it is to christ. please share your story so we can look to jesus together for the answers you need. thanks!!

  • Tom Tom says:

    Consider this: When Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sins, how many of your sins had you personally committed? None. He died 2,000 years ago. Therefore, when a person has repented and trusted in Jesus Christ and has been born again, if through circumstances of pain or suffering or prescribed drug depression a Christian kills themselves, that sin has already been forgiven 2,000 years ago. All sins, past, present, and future, are forgiven when a person trusts in Jesus Christ.

  • dream says:

    To Chris.. Yes all sins are forgiveable but how someone will ask for forgivness if he will commit suicide? He will have no time to repent after killing himself and no sin enters heaven! And Jesus wanted to died because he died for our sins you can’t put Jesus desire to die to talk about suicide!

  • chris says:

    Who ever is talking about Christians taking their own lives does not know what they are talking about. I know God is real and I believe in heaven and he’ll and yet I have lived through so much misery I think about ending my life all the time. You people that spout off about God all the time need to get a clue. Just because u have some sense of what ever u want to call it does not matter. U have no clue the pain some of us deal with on a daily basis. God never said he will take the pain away. Never. People like u need to stop judging and start being there for people that have this type of pain inside.

  • Chris says:

    kay….we need to be careful about representing what jesus would say, when he hasnt said. jesus didnt mention suicide but he did say in Matthew 12.31 that all sin was forgiveable. he didnt say suicide was any exception. elijah wanted to die, 1 kings 19. jesus wanted to die, Matthew 26.38 paul was close to wanting to die too, phillipians 1.23.

  • Tom Tom says:

    Hi Kay–
    While I can appreciate your position, please let me speak to you in love and kindness regarding what you wrote:

    It is unreasonable to group all suicides together as we oftentimes don’t know the reason for this final act. While I’m sure there are relatively few Christians who take their own life, I can easily imagine scenarios where a Christian, due to medical situations, is taking certain medications that cause extreme and deep depression or even cause a person to not act in their right mind. I can also envision a Christian who has lived with so much physical pain for so long without any further hope of relief, deciding it would be better to end their life and to be with the Lord.

    Remember that when a person repents and puts their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, they are born again spiritually as a child of God. That can NEVER be taken away. When Christ died for our sins, he died for ALL of them, even the act of suicide. Nothing and no one can pluck the saved believer out of the Father’s hand.

    Lastly, and as simply a point of good theology, no one who dies can become a “demon.” Demons are those angels who sided with Lucifer when he disobeyed God and who now do Satan’s bidding.

    Thanks for allowing me to address these things!

  • lookingup says:

    Suicide is murder and therefore is not God’s will. Jesus said “Because I live, you should live also.” John 14:19

    Kay, on what scriptures do you base your comment on?

  • Kay says:

    You said if one commits suicide is with the Lord.

    Everyone wants to be with the Lord so why dont you all commit suicide.

    Please dont fool yourself as who commits suicide goes with the devil and becomes a slave with him and become a demon.

  • Susan says:


    This is not you talking but I am sure saten is forcing you to talk and you are listening to him but not listening to God. God loves you so much and He sent His own precious Son to save you. Don’t talk such things…listen to God. You are not realizing what youa re talking. You mentioned,”let me perish peacefully…” my friend, no peace but your problem starts..devil is a liar and he want to destroy you…please never listen to evil spirit.

  • Susan says:


    How can you say that you are not God’s creation. The fact is that, you are God’s creation. Whether you believe this or not this is true.

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Sorry Rin, I don’t know what you are trying to say. I don’t read Japanese nor can I find a translator that takes transliteration and puts into English. I do see that you claim to be created by some other source than God. What makes you think that?

  • Rin T. Saotome says:

    Sorry…this site doesnt show japanese…..
    ….. Watashi wa chi no tsukidesu.. … Watashi ga kawarini watashi wa satan ga musuko o yobu y?na monoda.. … Shi o manugareta hazu nanida.. … To nan kami wa hangyaku-sha o yobidashiRub? kama… .. Shi no kami…….. Kanashimi… .. Ky?fu. … Zetsub?. … Ky?fu… … … Ky?ki…..Sadisutikku ky?kan… … Watashi wa Rin Takamaru Saotome……. Saikikkuvu~anpaiada! ! ! !

  • Rin T. Saotome says:

    The fact that im not his creation…….and the fact im not entirely existing……thats why…………. …..???????…..???????????????????????…..?????????…..????????????????…..???……..???…..??….??….??………??…..??????????……????????…….????????????!!!!

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Are you telling me that the one who created the Universe is unable to set you free? Is it that you cannot be helped or don’t want to acknowledge that Jesus loves you and died so that you could be set free? The Bible promises that “if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old is gone and the new has come.” (2Corinthians 5:17) Jesus can break anything that is holding you captive right now, if you are willing to trust Him to do it.

    What makes you an outsider to God?

  • Rin says:

    I was only joking Jamie……I will never change…people just…they just don’t change, I am an outsider to god and the world………no one can help me now

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    I sense some sarcasm Rin. What has convinced you that God does not love you and cannot help you?

  • Rin T. Saotome says:

    Ive seen the video…….i feel changed!!!!!:-) thanks^^

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    The one who knows who you truly are is the one who made you. Focus your attention on God and He will show you who you really are. Let me know when you have watched the video and tell me what you think, OK?

  • Rin T. Saotome says:

    I already know this……….tell me……..Who Am I really?……….am i Rin….Death…….Kanashimi…..Kyoki?……..i am the moon and blood…..the shadow and scythe……………………….I’am The Second Son..

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Rin, I wish I could give you an answer to why you have been rejected for so long. But I do know God loves you. He has shown you His love for you by sacrificing Himself for you even though you treat Him as an enemy. Jesus death on the cross was for you. He died so that you could be set free from the destructive path that you had chosen for your life. You set up an interesting juxtaposition: God hates – Satan loves. Tell me, who do you spend more time focusing on, God or Satan? From your statement my guess is that you spend more time looking at Satan then you do pursuing God. God created this world with all of its diverse beauty as a place for you to thrive. Satan tries to destroy that beauty. God speaks truth to us so that we can know what is right. Satan uses deceit and bribery to lead us into selfishness. God sacrificed Himself so that we could be free. Satan sacrifices us so that we stay captive.

    Do you want to be set free Rin? Focus your attention on God. Explore the beauty of His love for you. Why don’t you start with watching this video about the life of Jesus http://arc.gt/4pan4 I would love to hear what you think.

    Let me pray for you: Jesus, my friend Rin is hurting deep down in his life. He feels alone, rejected by people and rejected by You. I know that You have not rejected him because You paid the ultimate price for him. I pray that You would show Yourself to Rin and that the lies of Satan would be revealed by the Light of Your Truth. I know that Rin wants to know the Truth so I ask that You would help him to recognize it. As he watches Your story I pray that he would see Your love for him. Amen.

    Rin, once you have watched the video come back here and tell me what you think OK?

  • Rin T. Saotome says:

    ……Hahahahahahaha……DO YOU THINK I HAVENT TRIED GETTING HELP?!?!?!?!?!?!….I HAVE NO PURPOSE IN LIFE….14….FOURTEEN YEARS OF BEING REJECTED AN NEVER HAVING A SOUL TO CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!………so tell me………………why…………..does god hate me………….and why…………Satan Loves Me…….

  • Jamie Jamie says:

    Hi Rin, I am sorry that you have had such a painful time. Feeling like no one sees you or cares about you can be an overwhelming thing. I would like to give you help and support and I will if you let me but at this point, your safety is most important. Please contact a professional counselor right away. You will be surprized at how talking with someone can help give a different perspective on things. I know you want life to be better so I ask you to call and give it chance to turn things around.

    I’ve included some emergency phone lines for you below:
    Dial 911 in Canada and USA
    1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433) USA & Canada
    1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255) USA-National
    Hearing impaired call 1-800-799-4TTY (1-800-799-4889) USA
    Centerstone(Suicide Crisis Call Center) 1-800-273-TALK (8255) USA

    I am here to come alongside of you, pray with you, listen without judgment, and support and encourage you throughout this very difficult time.

    Suicide is not the answer, getting help is the answer.

    Let me pray for you: Dear Lord, I do pray for Rin and ask that You would help him to feel Your eyes on him right now. There is no one who is outside of Your infinite attention and You are intimately aware of all that Rin has been through and how it has impacted him. I pray that You would help him to make choices that will bring healing and wholeness rather than death. Bring people into his life who will help him know that he is a valued part of this world. Amen.

    Rin I look forward to talking to you but please now would you make that call and talk to someone there?

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