Does God Exist? Proof & Evidence for the Existence of God

Just once wouldn’t you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God’s existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, “You just have to believe.”

Well, here is an attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists.

But first consider this. If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away.

It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Satellite footage of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks…all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon.

When it comes to the possibility of God’s existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God.(1)

On the other hand, for those who want to know God if He is there, He says, “You will seek me and find me; when you seek me with all your heart, I will be found by you.”(2) Before you look at the facts surrounding God’s existence, ask yourself, If God does exist, would I want to know Him?

Here, then, are some reasons supporting God’s existence...

1. Throughout history, in all cultures of the world, people have been convinced there is a God.

Could one say with any sense of confidence that all those people have been mistaken? Billions of people, who represent diverse sociological, intellectual, emotional, educational makeups…all came to the same conclusion that there is a Creator, a God to be worshipped.

“Anthropological research has indicated that among the farthest and most remote primitive people today, there is a universal belief in God. And in the earliest histories and legends of people all around the world, the original concept was of one God, who was the Creator. An original high God seems once to have been in their consciousness even in those societies which are today polytheistic.”(3)

2. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today. Many examples showing God’s design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:

  • The Earth…its size is perfect. The Earth’s size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth’s surface.If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.(4) Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up.Even a fractional variance in the Earth’s position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

    And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet it restrains our massive oceans from spilling over across the continents.(5)

  • Water…colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You’ll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life…It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.Water is a universal solvent. Take a full glass of water, add a cup of sugar, and nothing spills over the edge; the water simply absorbs the sugar. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.(6)Water is also chemically inert. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

    Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.
    Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

    Ninety-seven percent of the Earth’s water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.(7)

  • The human brain…simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information.Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the way this article appears to you on your screen.Your brain registers emotional responses, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands.The human brain processes more than a million messages a second.(8) Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world.

    A brain that deals with more than a million pieces of information every second, while evaluating its importance and allowing you to act on the most pertinent information…can we say mere chance brought about such an astounding organ?

    When NASA launches a shuttle mission, it is assumed a monkey didn’t write the plan, but intelligent and knowledgeable minds. How does one explain the existence of the human brain? Only a mind more intelligent and knowledgeable than humanity could have created the human brain.

3. Mere “chance” is not an adequate explanation.

Imagine looking at Mount Rushmore, in which the likenesses of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt are carved. Could you ever believe that it came about by chance?

Given infinite time, wind, rain and chance, it is still hard to believe something like that, tied to history, was randomly formed in the side of a mountain. Common sense tells us that people planned and skillfully carved those figures.

This article only touches on a few amazing aspects of our world: the Earth’s position to the sun, some properties of water, one organ in the human body. Could any of these have come about by chance?

The distinguished astronomer Sir Frederick Hoyle showed how amino acids randomly coming together in a human cell is mathematically absurd. Sir Hoyle illustrated the weakness of “chance” with the following analogy. “What are the chances that a tornado might blow through a junkyard containing all the parts of a 747, accidentally assemble them into a plane, and leave it ready for take-off? The possibilities are so small as to be negligible even if a tornado were to blow through enough junkyards to fill the whole universe!”(9)

When one considers the intricacies of our life and universe, it is reasonable to think that an intelligent, loving Creator provided for everything we need for life. The Bible describes God as the author and sustainer of life.

4. Humankind’s inherent sense of right and wrong cannot be biologically explained. There arises in all of us, of any culture, universal feelings of right and wrong. Even a thief gets upset and feels wronged when someone steals from him. If someone violently grabs a child from a family and rapes that child, there is an anger and revulsion and a rage to confront that act as evil, regardless of the culture. Where did we get this sense of wrongness? How do we explain a universal law in the conscience of all people that says murder for fun is wrong?

And in areas like courage, dying for a cause, love, dignity, duty and compassion, where did these come from? If people are merely products of physical evolution, “survival of the fittest,” why do we sacrifice for each other? Where did we get this inner sense of right and wrong? Our conscience can best be explained by a loving Creator who cares about the decisions and harmony of humanity.

Next: God left a biography about himself as evidence for his existence

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133 thoughts on “Does God Exist? Proof & Evidence for the Existence of God

  1. Richard

    Hey Tim,
    Are you drunk or an idiot? Hopefully you’re drunk because then at least you can sober up!
    You obviously don’t understand evolution, as none of your criticisms make sense.
    “If you choose not to see, even god can’t help you.” Of course he can’t, he doesn’t exist. If there was an all seeing, all powerful god who wanted us to know of his existence, then he could easily do it; not make a brief appearance two thousand years ago, do a few magic tricks then disappear.
    Yes, humans are animals. Highly evolved animals, but animals none the less. Get over it.
    I (and many people I know) have zero spirituality, but I have plenty of purpose in my life. So you’re wrong again there. Each of us has to find our own purpose. You for instance have decided to absolve any responsibility for your life to an imaginary man in the sky. Seems a bit silly but that’s your choice.
    You want to know why we don’t just all kill each other and get it over with? Because we, just like all animals have evolved an instinct to survive. Why don’t you believers all kill each other so you can go to heaven?
    Talking about picking and choosing, have you read the bible lately? Unless you’re keeping slaves, stoning people for working on Sundays, murdering, raping and any number of other horrors both the old and new testaments recommend, then you’re doing an awful lot of picking and choosing.
    You say there is positive and negative in everything therefore… um… there is a god. Great theory Tim. Champion!

  2. JamieJamie

    Hi Tim and Richard, can I ask that we maintain a level of mutual respect in the conversation here? I know that this issue can be very polarizing but the conversation is not helped by calling to question people’s sanity or criticizing their character. This site is intended for the free sharing of ideas so please refrain from name calling other hurtful verbal attacks.

  3. Richard

    Watchman,
    Your not understanding something doesn’t make it impossible. Nothing “just popped up”. Life has taken billions of years to evolve and civilisation as we know it has taken a few thousand.

  4. KateKate

    One helpful idea I learned from William Webb’s book analyzing some of the most troubling passages in the bible (about homosexuals, slaves and women) is to look for the redemptive movement. The bible is definitely not an instruction guide for how to create a utopia; it is not like a textbook that you can open to find an ultimate ethic. It is historically and geographically situated, written to certain people, in a certain time, under certain conditions. So the question posed is: Are those passages (which we admit are disturbing if not downright terrible) of scripture redemptive for those people, at that time, in their circumstances? That is a helpful question. From our time, place and perspective, can things be improved upon, e.g. the abolishment of slavery would be even better? YES! Can we say the trajectory of the treatment of slaves was an improvement to the way slaves were treated in that time and place? Also YES. So goes Dr. Webb’s redemptive movement hermeneutic.

  5. Jim van Ommen

    Hi Jamie,
    Happy New Year to you.
    You state at the heading of this website: ” When it comes to the possibility of God’s existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God.(1) ”
    Can you explain please what you mean by…..but they have suppressed the truth about God.(1)……who are those people and why did they do that?

  6. JamieJamie

    Happy New Year to you as well Jim.

    The ‘they’ in that passage actually refers to all humanity. All of us have rejected the authority of God over our lives and have chosen to follow our own path rather than submit to His created purpose for us. God created humanity to be in a relationship with Him. We are unique in all the created order because we were recipients of the Image of God which means that we are able to relate to God in a way that no other being can. But with that gift also came the opportunity for us to reject God. True love is only possible if one is able to choose not to love. We have all inherited a nature from our ancestors that rejects God’s authority over us and seeks to place ourselves as the makers of our own destiny. But that mindset totally ignores that we were created to walk with God and to follow His lead in everything we do.

    So we suppress the truth of God that is clearly evident in the world around us. And we are very creative in the ways that we suppress the truth of God. Some people just outright say, “There is no God” even though the very existence of the natural universe requires a an uncaused cause to bring something out of nothing. Other people suppress the truth of God by creating a religion that puts them in the driver’s seat. They create a list of rules, rituals or roles that allow us to be in control of how we come to God. It is interesting that of all the religions in this world only Christianity says that there is nothing that humans can do to be made right with God and are wholly dependent on God to restore that relationship.

    There are many other ways that people suppress the truth about God but it all boils down to the same thing: I want to be in control not let God be in control. It is a rebellion of the created against the Creator.

    But God loves us far too much to leave us there. So while we were still in the middle of shaking our fist at Him in rebellion, He humiliated Himself by becoming one of us so that we could get to know if personally. He then allowed Himself to be sacrificed on our behalf and thus taking the penalty of our rebellion on Himself. In exchange, He offers to all a new nature that is a reflection of His perfection. Not that we become God but we are no longer controlled by our old nature of rebellion. We can now live a moral life because He is leading and guiding us every step of the way. That new life is available to all who trust that Jesus’ sacrifice for them was sufficient to heal our relationship with God forever.

    Many people still refuse to accept Jesus’ sacrifice on their behalf and go on suppressing the truth of God thinking they can handle life on their own. But for all who do believe and receive, they begin to live life as God had originally intended and experience the wonder of being loved by the Creator of the Universe.

    Does that answer your question?

  7. Jim van Ommen.

    Yes, it does and I totally agree. Thank you.
    Suppressing the truth by their wickedness, wickedness being the operative word ? I was thinking about this passage of scripture that people were denying the truth, but that was not necessarily the case then. They were suppressing the truth even after having seen sufficient evidence of the truth, as an act of defiance and pride. I wonder, how many of us have seen sufficient evidence of the truth in the context of this passage of scripture? Is the Apostle Paul referring here to those who have met Christ in person? How does that evidence fit in with the evidence of things not seen?

  8. JamieJamie

    I find it amazing that people who saw Jesus do all the things He did still refused to acknowledge His deity. As I read through the reports of what happened I see the trend of people having expectations of who Jesus should be and what He should do. Jesus often challenges those expectations–the ones that are derived from people’s priorities rather than God’s–and brings people to a place of having to choose: do I accept Jesus on His terms or do I hold to my priorities and demand that He conform to those? The religious leaders of the day should have known better but they stubbornly refused to accept Jesus even though He clearly was divine. Judas, one of Jesus 12 disciples who saw and heard all that Jesus had done, chose his own priorities rather than accept Jesus’ priorities.

    It just goes to show how powerful our mind can be when we want to believe something. A person can be shown clear evidence of the love of God but if they are determined to approach life by their own priorities they can rationalize anything away that doesn’t fit for them. Today, we have plenty of evidence of the life of Jesus both by eyewitness accounts in the Bible but also through many contemporary accounts as well. His death on a cross is unquestioned and the claim by His followers that He had risen from the dead was immediate and consistent. Those who opposed Him could have easily ended the growing movement by producing the body of Jesus. The fact that they never did establishes fairly convincingly that Jesus did indeed raise from the dead. And yet with all the evidence people today still refuse to believe that God has come to us to reach out and save us from ourselves. Since that doesn’t fit in with our priorities we reject His message of love and continue to follow our own way.

  9. Jim van Ommen

    Jamie, I want you to know how much I appreciate your witness.
    I know it is so easy to say nothing and take it all for granted as we gain information from that anonymous person on the other side of the cyberspace, but I’m very much aware how each one of us involved in the Lord’s work need to hear endorsements and be built up. When it is absent for long periods of time our human frailty reflects on how the prophets of old had their difficult times and felt very lonely, seldom seeing the fruits of their labours. Yes then I remind myself of the text that says something like; it is our duty to scatter the seed and somebody else to reap the harvest.
    Ok, we’re not to look for the praise of men….but from Godly people? ….would that be acceptable and encouraging?….at times?
    The Lord bless you in your powerful ministry!
    Jim van Ommen.

    ( I had sent this to you direct by reply email, but it was undeliverable for some reason)

  10. Michael JantzenM. Jantzen

    Hi Jim, Jamie will see it now. I think we have the word ‘prophet’ set to give a red flag and require approval because of all of the spam promising a prophet to fix relationship problems with a magical spell. :) Take care!

  11. Steve

    It’s easy to be an Athiest. Believing in God is hard. It requires faith and consequences for actions.
    The earth and moon prove the exsistance of God. Devine design.
    Some of the greatest minds in history believed in God. They knew and saw that this all didn’t just happen by chance.
    But, like them, you have to do what’s required to find out.
    If you do nothing, you’ll get nothing. You’ll stay what you are. And if that’s what you want to be. Then there you have it.

  12. Richard

    Steve,
    It’s easy to be a believer. Faith requires zero effort. No need to take responsibility for your own actions. No need to think for yourself. For example if you’re a believer it’s quite acceptable to allow people to suffer. To quote that great Christian Mother Teresa “There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering.” I, as an athiest have no excuse to let others suffer.
    The Earth and the Moon are proof of the existence of… the Earth and the Moon.
    Some of the greatest minds in history didn’t believe in God. Many great minds in history had to pretend to believe in God or be murdered by the lovely Christians for heresy. But even the greatest of minds believing in something without evidence does not make that thing true.
    I agree with your last line completely. Doing nothing is precisely what having faith is.

  13. Jim van Ommen

    Your reply Richard is awaiting moderation, it would appear. In the meantime to give you something to think about; God’s existence is not dependent on atheists endorsement that He does. You Richard, you exist and you are not just a product of God’s creation, you are also created in His image with an enabling that is awaiting to be blessed by God himself. Would you agree that you do exist? Then so does your Creator God, who wants you to do much more than just exist. There is a purpose for you and me and everyone else and the whole of creation and it is extremely worthwhile and exciting to find out just what that is and live life to the full.
    Regards, Jim.

  14. Ricahrd

    Hi Jim,
    Thanks for your response.
    I hope you appreciate that I in no way wish to upset anyone, but enjoy an intelligent debate on a subject that I am interested in.
    To your points; no, God’s existence is not dependent on athiests endorsement. His existence is dependent on the many religion’s endorsement.
    He is nothing without that endorsement. I.E, He doesn’t exist.
    Yes, I agree I exist. And I find that mind blowing and wonderful and awe inspiring. But my existence doesn’t suggest something elses existence. Except, of course my parents..
    Have more to say but I must be off.
    Richard.

  15. ShelleyShelley

    Dear Father God.

    I pray that anyone who reads this will open there eyes about You as Our God and how all this took place for us to sustain life here on planet earth. In Jesus Mighty name amen

  16. Jim van Ommen

    Hi Richard,
    I find it interesting and not surprising you include your parents and no doubt that suggests that you would also include their parents and ancestry. Where then is the beginning? You may prefer the term evolution to creation as in their traditional meaning, nevertheless there was a beginning and any suggestion that this came about by chance is not really a reasonable or even a scientifically acceptable answer. Scientists working with the law of probability do at least accept and respect their limitations and that they are working in the realm of probabilities. That leads me to the question; are you a scientist? Probably not as you say without a shadow of a doubt; “ He doesn’t exist” . That I find very surprising.
    How do we prove that God does exist, I exist, anything exists are popular questions that I believe some people would ask not necessarily in all sincerity, but more so to appear somewhat philosophical, or in search for the deeper meanings in life. In response to that question I would ask an equally valid question: how do we proof that anyone or anything does not exist. Think about it.
    The answer in my book is, we cannot because what does not exist is not perceptible to the human mind and therefore beyond proof in the context of the meaning of the word proof. The only person ever to have any real dealings with that which does not exist is our Creator God who made this universe and us out of nothing.
    If we then are unable to proof that anyone or anything does not exist on what basis can we assume that we can prove who or what does exist? What makes us think that we have the understanding and the capacity to reverse what God has created in the first place in an attempt to explain away ourselves, God and His creation?

    Definition of PROOF according to the Webster dictionary is:

    The cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact…. and the word COGENCY means: Appealing to the intellect or powers of reasoning; convincing.

    I would like to ask you, Richard, what is the significance of that which is……. “ appealing to the intellect of the human mind “…….. as compared with……. the wisdom of the One who created us out of nothing?
    What we need to realize is that the word proof is earthbound it has no application or validity in the spiritual realm. Now whether we acknowledge that spiritual realm to be part of us or not, we do consist of Body, Mind and Spirit and the latter part is that which connects us to our Creator God. We literally need to trade in the word Proof for the word Faith and we will find ourselves in another reality, like the butterfly that after metamorphosis spreads its wings to fly to the life giving light.
    Regards, Jim.

  17. Richard

    Jim,

    Where is the beginning? Well, the beginning of the universe as we know it was about 13.8 billion years ago. There is a great deal of evidence to suggest that the big bang happened and is really not debatable in any meaningful scientific way.

    What started the big bang?

    Maybe God? But then what started God? I imagine you might say God has always existed, but you might as well say the universe has always existed. Adding God doesn’t help the equation.

    And yes, the universe coming about by chance is entirely scientifically acceptable.

    Do you not believe things happen by chance? The toss of a coin, the meeting of your life partner? Or do you think everything is preordained?

    What was before the big bang we don’t know but there are many plausible possibilities. None of those possibilities have any need for the intervention of a god.

    I wouldn’t say there is no god “without a shadow of a doubt”. There must always be room for doubt. But it is just so implausible and without evidence that the possibility hardly needs to be entertained.

    How do I prove that I exist? I’m typing this for a start. I would be missed if I didn’t turn up for work, or come home to my wife and kids. There are any number of proofs that I exist and my effect and interaction with the world.

    It’s impossible to prove that something “does not exist”. But absence of any evidence of something’s existence can eliminate that thing from our enquiries.

    Definition of proof according to the Macmillan dictionary:

    Information or evidence that shows that something is definitely true or definitely exists.

    The definition of faith is the belief in something in the absence of proof. If there was ANY evidence that God existed you wouldn’t need faith. Why is God so unwilling to show Himself? Because He can only love people who are willing to believe something without evidence? Seems unlikely.

    Our debate is unfortunately pointless. I can’t believe something without evidence and you’re happy to have “faith” without proof.

    So no matter what argument I put forward, you can just fall back on “you just have to have faith”.

    All the best, Richard

  18. jgvanommenJim van Ommen

    I guess Richard that we have done full circle, but I suggest that you do not limit yourself by saying ;” I can’t believe in something without evidence”. Leave your options open, you do believe in things happening by chance, don’t you?
    Regards, Jim.

  19. JamieJamie

    Richard, I am surprised that you would describe the theories of what began the Big Bang as ‘plausible possibilities’ but you dismiss a Creator God as implausible. The idea of a singularity of infinite density and zero volume is hard enough to conceive without having to try to imagine where that singularity originated from and how it spontaneously erupted into the expansion we call the Big Bang. Not that I don’t think it is worthwhile to investigate those possibilities but they still require a leap of faith to call them plausible.

  20. Adam

    For all non believers when your last day comes… And it will Indefinitely come..You will be afraid , and you will say 3 small little words.´Oh my God..

  21. Richard

    Jim,

    Perhaps I understated things calling the Big Bang a “plausible possibility”. The Big Bang is the accepted theory because there is evidence for it. The universe is expanding in all directions (suggesting it all came from single point), Very early in its history, the whole Universe was very hot. As it expanded, this heat left behind a “glow” that fills the entire Universe. The Big Bang theory not only predicts that this glow should exist, but that it should be visible as microwaves and this is exactly what we see.

    The Big Bang theory predicts how much of each element should have been made in the early universe, and what we see in very distant galaxies and old stars is just right.

    So, no leap of faith there.

    Yes, I believe in things happening by chance. I thought it was you who did not?

    Yes, I will leave my options open. As soon as I see evidence I am more than happy to change my position.

    Again I say, if there was any evidence to suggest any gods had anything to do with the creation of the universe, faith would no longer be required and believers would be falling over themselves to point it out (but they’re not).

    The ball is back in your court Jim. It landed there thanks to gravity (another observable, testable, repeatable theory).

    All the best.

  22. Richard

    Adam,

    It’s the non believers who know their last day will come. Believers think their last day is just a hiccup on the road to eternity.

    If there is a god, maybe we’ll be saying “Oh my God”. Or perhaps you’ll be saying “Oops, I worshipped the wrong god…”

    Keep smiling.

  23. Jim van Ommen

    Quite right Richard, I don’t believe in chance, everything is by masterful design and there is very little that mankind is capable to comprehend about this design. However I don’t call things by chance just because I do not understand what’s going on. As appealing as the Big Bang philosophy may be to some, to me it seems even more feasible it all started in the infinitely smallest of small nano particles even the mysterious God Particle. Now, there is a challenge for you Richard…….I didn’t give it that name.
    Gravity observable, you say ? …No. No more than Faith is but it would be foolish to deny the power of either.
    Gravity testable, you say ? I agree and so is Faith, in fact we live by it, faith in fellow human beings as well as in God.
    God bless you.

    John 20:29

  24. JamieJamie

    You are right Richard that the Big Bang theory did predict Cosmic Microwave Background but the observed CMB does not fit with the model of the Big Bang. First of all, the uniformity of temperature of the CMB does not fit with the 13+ Billion years since the supposed Big Bang. There has not been enough time for thermal contact to result in the uniformity of the temperature of the CMB as it is observed today. So while we know there is CMB the Big Bang does not adequately explain why it is there.

    Second, the smoothness of the CMB could not have allowed the formation of galaxies or clusters of galaxies. According to the Big Bang model there must have been an inhomogeneous nature to the universe that had areas that were denser where the material for galaxy formation could be gathered. However, today we can observe that the CMB is much smoother than what the Big Bang Model says it should be.

    Now it is true that some people have suggested that the laws of nature were somehow different in the past and they have come up with the idea of Inflation–that the universe expanded at a speed faster than light at one time in history. But there is just no evidence of inflation except that there needed to be inflation in order to make the Big Bang theory plausible. That seems similar to a creationist saying that the evidence for a Creator God is the fact that there is a universe. What makes Big Bang plausible but a Creator implausible? Hmmm….sounds like a bit of a double standard.

  25. Richard

    Jim,

    I think it would be quite a sad existence to think that everything has been planned out for you, nothing happens by chance or from one’s own doing . Not only that, but as a mere human I am unable to “comprehend the design” so there is no point in trying to find answers.

    Gravity not observable? Gravity is easily observable. Try dropping a weight several times. If conditions are the same for each drop, it will hit the ground at the same speed every time. Not once will the weight rise towards the sky when dropped. Observable, reliable, repeatable results.

    Try the same with a faith based idea like prayer. Your results will be no better than random.

    I agree faith has a well being effect on those who have it and that’s great. But I would like to see the test that shows faith has any demonstrable effect in the physical world.

    Now for the next “challenge”, the god particle. No, you’re right you didn’t name it. The physicist who coined the term is Leon Lederman who wrote the book of the same name. As he is an atheist it seems unlikely he meant it to refer to anything you might actually consider god. The nick name is disliked by many physicists including Peter Higgs (also an atheist and one of the predictors of the particle) who regard it as inappropriately sensational.

    Salaam

  26. Jim van Ommen

    Author: Richard
    Comment:
    Jim,

    I think it would be quite a sad existence to think that everything has been planned out for you, nothing happens by chance or from one’s own doing .

    JvO*** That is not what I said or think Richard, there is plenty going on and quite exciting things***JvO

    Not only that, but as a mere human I am unable to “comprehend the design” so there is no point in trying to find answers.

    JvO*** The Bible does not say that our attempts to understand our environment is wrong in the slightest, but there are two things that will help us in our understanding. Use and share our findings and inventions and expertise for the benefit of our fellow human beings and know and acknowledge our limitations before God.***JvO

    Gravity not observable? Gravity is easily observable.

    JvO*** You observe the effects of gravity but it is a force that is not visible. In the same way that one can demonstrate the force of wind, but wind remains invisible. Same goes for magnetics, electronics etc.. How did we come to talk about that again ? Oh, that’s right; the invisible, but awsome powers of Faith and Gravity, not to be trifled with. ***JvO

    Try dropping a weight several times. If conditions are the same for each drop, it will hit the ground at the same speed every time. Not once will the weight rise towards the sky when dropped. Observable, reliable, repeatable results.
    Try the same with a faith based idea like prayer. Your results will be no better than random.

    JvO*** Now you’ve got me !? But I think you would agree with me we are once again at the dividing line; – faith and proof – are incompatible in as much that they have their applications in different spheres, the spiritual and the physical. For that please refer to what I said on this matter earlier on this website. 6th Oct. 2012.
    The ultimate saving grace for a 5 year old not to get electrocuted is not its knowledge of electronics, but obedience to his dad not to put those scissors in that power point. I think you would agree that the gap of knowledge between the Creator of the universe and the creature is infinitely greater than that between Parent and child. Obedience and science, mmmmm,…yes they don’t seem to have much in common, but there comes a time if it hasn’t already come, for us to heed the warning of our Heavenly Father.***JvO

    I agree faith has a wellbeing effect on those who have it and that’s great. But I would like to see the test that shows faith has any demonstrable effect in the physical world.

    JvO***I think you have just said it at the beginning of this paragraph, but it is more than a feeling of wellbeing. Billions of people have and still live by faith often in ways that you and I would say…………I don’t know how people could possibly live, even exist under those circumstances. They live by faith through grace and as a challenge to the rest of the world to help them out of their misery rather than spent billions on space exploration and endless selfish pursuits.***JvO

    Now for the next “challenge”, the god particle. No, you’re right you didn’t name it. The physicist who coined the term is Leon Lederman who wrote the book of the same name. As he is an atheist it seems unlikely he meant it to refer to anything you might actually consider god. The nick name is disliked by many physicists including Peter Higgs (also an atheist and one of the predictors of the particle) who regard it as inappropriately sensational.

    JvO*** Yes, quite remarkable, but I don’t think the name will ever go away. Reminds me of a biblical figure in authority; He wrote something once that the people of the time didn’t like and his response was
    “ What I have written I have written”. Yes you could say…….nothing has changed……. only for those who believe what he wrote. ***JvO

    Salaam

    and same to you
    JvO

    PS, Sorry for responding in this fashion, but I found it easier to keep the response close to your comments.

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