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	<title>Comments on: Choosing a Space Heater</title>
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		<title>By: Lucian Wischik</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/world/spaceheater/comment-page-1/#comment-1429741</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucian Wischik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Krystoff: on the contrary, most devices for generating heat from electricity are 100% efficient. Everything lost through wire-resistance is lost AS HEAT.

@SpaceHeaterReviews: Of course you can transform 100% of energy into heat. It doesn&#039;t in any way make a perpetuum mobile. The only way to make a perpetuum mobile is to transform 0% of energy into heat.


Look, all these basic misunderstandings about &quot;efficiency&quot; is why the article is misleading. It was a great opportunity to explain to people how to judge the cost of heating, the cost of initial purchase, the specificity of the heat produced -- but instead it perpetuated the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Krystoff: on the contrary, most devices for generating heat from electricity are 100% efficient. Everything lost through wire-resistance is lost AS HEAT.</p>
<p>@SpaceHeaterReviews: Of course you can transform 100% of energy into heat. It doesn&#8217;t in any way make a perpetuum mobile. The only way to make a perpetuum mobile is to transform 0% of energy into heat.</p>
<p>Look, all these basic misunderstandings about &#8220;efficiency&#8221; is why the article is misleading. It was a great opportunity to explain to people how to judge the cost of heating, the cost of initial purchase, the specificity of the heat produced &#8212; but instead it perpetuated the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: krzystoff</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/world/spaceheater/comment-page-1/#comment-1429051</link>
		<dc:creator>krzystoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 14:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lucian; to split your &#039;split-hairs&#039;, no device is 100% efficient, the resistance of the wires and components ensures that, until someone discovers the perfect superconductor, we will never have 100% efficiency.  higher voltage appliances are more electrically efficient than lower voltage -- so a device running on 9V is likely more energy efficient than a USB powered device and a mains-powered light fitting for example is more energy efficient than a 12V light fitting.  thus, you are utilising less energy that what you paid for, and if you have plug-packs/transformers all around your home, you are using far less still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lucian; to split your &#8216;split-hairs&#8217;, no device is 100% efficient, the resistance of the wires and components ensures that, until someone discovers the perfect superconductor, we will never have 100% efficiency.  higher voltage appliances are more electrically efficient than lower voltage &#8212; so a device running on 9V is likely more energy efficient than a USB powered device and a mains-powered light fitting for example is more energy efficient than a 12V light fitting.  thus, you are utilising less energy that what you paid for, and if you have plug-packs/transformers all around your home, you are using far less still.</p>
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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Doris is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Doris</span> </title>
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		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Doris is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Doris</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to comment Mike and for that excellent input. I have actually used the heaters that are filled with oil and they give off great heat for very little cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to comment Mike and for that excellent input. I have actually used the heaters that are filled with oil and they give off great heat for very little cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/world/spaceheater/comment-page-1/#comment-672806</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heaters that use glowing wires and I also have ceramic heaters. They have the same wattage supposedly, but I can attest that the ceramic produces more noticeable heat. Since they are rated at the same maximum wattage that tells me the ceramic will provide more heat for the same amount of electricity used. 

I have a ceramic that stands 18 inches tall, it is about eight inches in diameter. The heat it puts out is noticeably greater than the one that uses glowing wires. It can be adjusted to oscillate back and forth so it could easily warm all sides of a person sitting in a chair and perhaps even two people fairly close together. It has two power settings and a timer so it will shut off if you rise and forget it. It also has a thermostat with increments every five from 65 to 85. That heater costs about $45 at discount stores compared to about $20 for the glowing wire heaters but I am reasonably certain it will cost far less to operate. Perhaps paying you back in the first month of use. I have been using it now for five years. It is beginning to produce a slight odor so I suspect it is nearing the end of its usable life but it still works.

The warmth from the ceramic can be felt up to six feet away in a 60 degree room. On the highest setting it can make you sweat from six feet away. 

I remember in the 1960&#039;s and 70&#039;s my grandma hanging blankets on doorways in the winter to control heat and using small heaters for the different rooms. She turned her thermostat down to 50 at night and would use a small heater facing her breakfast chair while she waited for the furnace to warm the kitchen. 

Isolating rooms is an excellent way to control heat. That is why many older homes had numerous swinging doors. Modern houses don&#039;t usually have those because most people don&#039;t want to be bothered opening and closing doors between rooms. A good alternative is a blanket or sheet hung with an overlapping split at the center so a person can easily push through without the need to use hands. It might mess up your hair a bit but it works well.

I have not tried the type that are filled with oil so I cannot compare them. If they use a ceramic system I am certain they would also be more cost saving than the glowing wire type. I would never use a glowing wire heater if there are small children around, too dangerous. Make certain ALL heaters you use have protection that will shut them off in case they should be tipped over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heaters that use glowing wires and I also have ceramic heaters. They have the same wattage supposedly, but I can attest that the ceramic produces more noticeable heat. Since they are rated at the same maximum wattage that tells me the ceramic will provide more heat for the same amount of electricity used. </p>
<p>I have a ceramic that stands 18 inches tall, it is about eight inches in diameter. The heat it puts out is noticeably greater than the one that uses glowing wires. It can be adjusted to oscillate back and forth so it could easily warm all sides of a person sitting in a chair and perhaps even two people fairly close together. It has two power settings and a timer so it will shut off if you rise and forget it. It also has a thermostat with increments every five from 65 to 85. That heater costs about $45 at discount stores compared to about $20 for the glowing wire heaters but I am reasonably certain it will cost far less to operate. Perhaps paying you back in the first month of use. I have been using it now for five years. It is beginning to produce a slight odor so I suspect it is nearing the end of its usable life but it still works.</p>
<p>The warmth from the ceramic can be felt up to six feet away in a 60 degree room. On the highest setting it can make you sweat from six feet away. </p>
<p>I remember in the 1960&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s my grandma hanging blankets on doorways in the winter to control heat and using small heaters for the different rooms. She turned her thermostat down to 50 at night and would use a small heater facing her breakfast chair while she waited for the furnace to warm the kitchen. </p>
<p>Isolating rooms is an excellent way to control heat. That is why many older homes had numerous swinging doors. Modern houses don&#8217;t usually have those because most people don&#8217;t want to be bothered opening and closing doors between rooms. A good alternative is a blanket or sheet hung with an overlapping split at the center so a person can easily push through without the need to use hands. It might mess up your hair a bit but it works well.</p>
<p>I have not tried the type that are filled with oil so I cannot compare them. If they use a ceramic system I am certain they would also be more cost saving than the glowing wire type. I would never use a glowing wire heater if there are small children around, too dangerous. Make certain ALL heaters you use have protection that will shut them off in case they should be tipped over.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your goal was to stay warm because, as a result of a medical condition, you perceive the temperature to be lower than it is.  This is the most cost effective way for you to feel warmer.

Set your thermostat to 60 degrees to control your costs and keep the building at a resonable temperature.  Then use a portable radient heat source.  radient energy will pass into your body.  You will feel warmer without paying to heat the air around you.  You have tryed to heat the air, that doesn&#039;t work for you.  It is also too expensive.  If you sit in a chair both you and the chair will get warm. When you leave the chair, it&#039;s warmth will then be used to heat the air in the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your goal was to stay warm because, as a result of a medical condition, you perceive the temperature to be lower than it is.  This is the most cost effective way for you to feel warmer.</p>
<p>Set your thermostat to 60 degrees to control your costs and keep the building at a resonable temperature.  Then use a portable radient heat source.  radient energy will pass into your body.  You will feel warmer without paying to heat the air around you.  You have tryed to heat the air, that doesn&#8217;t work for you.  It is also too expensive.  If you sit in a chair both you and the chair will get warm. When you leave the chair, it&#8217;s warmth will then be used to heat the air in the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Space Heater Reviews</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/world/spaceheater/comment-page-1/#comment-629746</link>
		<dc:creator>Space Heater Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lucian, I believe you can talk about efficiency related to space heaters. You might be right that the efficiency rate of modern heaters is quite good, maybe up to 99% of used energy can be converted to heat (can&#039;t be 100% obviously, not a perpetuum mobile). But we can definitely state which space heater is more efficient to run in given conditions: convection heaters won&#039;t be efficient in drafty room, I think there is nothing wrong with saying that even if you are pedantic. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lucian, I believe you can talk about efficiency related to space heaters. You might be right that the efficiency rate of modern heaters is quite good, maybe up to 99% of used energy can be converted to heat (can&#8217;t be 100% obviously, not a perpetuum mobile). But we can definitely state which space heater is more efficient to run in given conditions: convection heaters won&#8217;t be efficient in drafty room, I think there is nothing wrong with saying that even if you are pedantic. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/world/spaceheater/comment-page-1/#comment-612185</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to look up the word efficient just to be sure about your post lol. &quot;Achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.&quot;

By efficient I think he like myself means the best productivity for the buck.

Certain materials heat faster and longer then others and things like a fan and oscillating help disperse heat better. But I&#039;m realizing if you want to heat a room the a radiator design is the best this takes in the cold air and shoots it our hot rather then just pushing heat through air. So if you want to cook in one spot get a porcelain fan style heater if you want to heat a room get a mica radiator. A big problem is the most &quot;watts&quot; the GOV allows a heater to use is 1500 which is not enough power to heat a full size room with any heater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to look up the word efficient just to be sure about your post lol. &#8220;Achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.&#8221;</p>
<p>By efficient I think he like myself means the best productivity for the buck.</p>
<p>Certain materials heat faster and longer then others and things like a fan and oscillating help disperse heat better. But I&#8217;m realizing if you want to heat a room the a radiator design is the best this takes in the cold air and shoots it our hot rather then just pushing heat through air. So if you want to cook in one spot get a porcelain fan style heater if you want to heat a room get a mica radiator. A big problem is the most &#8220;watts&#8221; the GOV allows a heater to use is 1500 which is not enough power to heat a full size room with any heater.</p>
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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Claire Colvin is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Claire Colvin</span> </title>
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		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Claire Colvin is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Claire Colvin</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucian, I think you&#039;re splitting hairs here.  Clearly in the context of the article the author is using the term &quot;efficient&quot; in the context of &quot;which space heater will give me the most heat for my money&quot;.  Gary Foreman is an excellent journalist and has spent years writing about practical ways to stretch a dollar.  He&#039;s very good at what he does.  You are of course welcome to go to whichever source you prefer for your information, but I have full confidence in Gary, he knows his stuff and I will continue to use his work here.  He has helped a lot of people and in times like these, that help is desperately needed.

Claire Colvin
Sr. Ed., Power to Change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucian, I think you&#8217;re splitting hairs here.  Clearly in the context of the article the author is using the term &#8220;efficient&#8221; in the context of &#8220;which space heater will give me the most heat for my money&#8221;.  Gary Foreman is an excellent journalist and has spent years writing about practical ways to stretch a dollar.  He&#8217;s very good at what he does.  You are of course welcome to go to whichever source you prefer for your information, but I have full confidence in Gary, he knows his stuff and I will continue to use his work here.  He has helped a lot of people and in times like these, that help is desperately needed.</p>
<p>Claire Colvin<br />
Sr. Ed., Power to Change</p>
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		<title>By: Lucian</title>
		<link>http://powertochange.com/world/spaceheater/comment-page-1/#comment-610533</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to tell that a journalist knows nothing about electric space heaters: when he says that one kind is more &quot;efficient&quot; than another. That&#039;s not how electricity works!

The electricity comes from the outlet. The space heater turns it into heat. 100% of the electricity used gets turned into heat. Every electric space heater is 100% efficient. 100% of what you pay for it on your electric bill gets turned into heat.

If someone writes that one electric heater is &quot;more efficient&quot; than another -- then they don&#039;t understand electric heaters. Go somewhere else for advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to tell that a journalist knows nothing about electric space heaters: when he says that one kind is more &#8220;efficient&#8221; than another. That&#8217;s not how electricity works!</p>
<p>The electricity comes from the outlet. The space heater turns it into heat. 100% of the electricity used gets turned into heat. Every electric space heater is 100% efficient. 100% of what you pay for it on your electric bill gets turned into heat.</p>
<p>If someone writes that one electric heater is &#8220;more efficient&#8221; than another &#8212; then they don&#8217;t understand electric heaters. Go somewhere else for advice.</p>
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		<title>By: <span class='mentorBadge' title='Doris is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Doris</span> </title>
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		<dc:creator><span class='mentorBadge' title='Doris is an official Power to Change mentor.' >Doris</span> </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for answering the questions about micathermic heaters! I don&#039;t even know what they are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for answering the questions about micathermic heaters! I don&#8217;t even know what they are!</p>
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